I can replace a SMT component like this in about 10 minutes....

JH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision


> Wouldn't external parts be better? If the lightning arrestor fails but the
> radio is good you can just replace the arrestor. Also, different
> environments require different layers of protection. By adding the parts
to
> the base unit you force everyone to pay.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of John Hokenson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision
>
>
> Looks reasonable to me....probably add $100 or so to the price but well
> worth it since it will be better protected than adding external parts.
>
> JH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "beckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision
>
>
> > no we are not, the suggestions would only add $47 in COST 1000 QTY
> > parts.
> It
> > would take away $35 + 14.98 in LPD units required to keep these
> > stable.
> >
> > If we wanted to add a steel case, we are talking 7$ in 1000 qty
> > prices.
> The
> > weather CAT5 nut would be offset by the outdoor seal currently used.
> > The plastic case isn't too cheep ether, I expect they have a per-item
> > cost around $4
> >
> > The single most expensive cost will be re-tooling. this is why their
> > is often lots of blank spaces on PC boards, for future features. This
> > is why
> I
> > made the suggestion for the 'next pcb rev', as I know they wont be in
> before
> > that.
> >
> > Lets see, recap:
> > 1000 qty prices
> > 1 extra LED with current sense IC (like the one trango uses) .05
> > 1 W2.4 LPD      $23.80
> > 1 True POE compatible LPD for the CAT5 port $8.50
> > 1 True POE circuit for the Powershot WITH ground strap $6.30 1 Steel
> > Case with Weather Nut for CAT5, custom stand-offs  $7.30 1 Ground Lug
> > for above with strap to connect all internal LPDs $1.40
> >
> > while they are at it, they may want to add a heat-sink to bleed summer
> heat
> > away. Add another $3
> >
> > all prices are estimated from past projects I have worked on.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:50 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision
> >
> >
> >
> > Let's just not add so much to the mix that we're adding
> > $100 to the price tag. We went with SmartBridges equipment because of
> > good recommendations, good results in our field tests, and one of the
> > best price/performance ratios.
> >
> > Kevin Summers
> > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > www.kistech.com
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Hokenson
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision
> >
> >
> > I REALLY like the idea of making the Polyphaser antenna protector and
> > ethernet surge arresstor internal to the outdoor unit--and make the
> > case steel or aluminum with a 1/4-20 ground lug as well.  The only
> > other mod I would suggest is a system such as used by Trango to put
> > the RJ45
> connection
> > INSIDE THE BOX.  Then, I can run shielded cat5 up, split the ground
> > out
> and
> > attach to the lug and continue inside with the RJ45 connection behind
> > a strain relief gland.
> >
> > John H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: beckman
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:54 PM
> > Subject: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision
> >
> >
> > poly phaser is now making a surface mount LPD unit for 2.4ghz, called
> > the W2.4 with sub 25$ pricing in quantity. In addition, Tripplite has
> > a very simple Cat5 LPD system that can be included with a Smartbridge
> > for less
> than
> > $10 in 1000 qty. To reduce the damage from static, which i think is
> > one of the most common sources for smartbridge problems, and improve
> > quality,
> these
> > may be features we wouldn't mind paying for. Especially since they
> > would reduce the extra parts we already have to buy for a smartbridges
> > install. (we have to buy LPD systems for antenna and cat5 even though
> > this is supposed to be a 'outdoor hardened product' because if we
> > don't, we don't even get 1 weeks life out of them). At the very least,
> > smartbridges REALLY needs to provide up-front warnings in the
> > documentation that such products are needed to make a smartbridges
> > last a while. From the docs I have,
> their
> > is supposed to be surge protection in the powershot, and I have to say
> their
> > isn't a lick of surge protection in the powershot (except maby if you
> > hit
> it
> > with a massive power surge it will burn up!)
> >
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