Probably also why we have very little in the way of hardware problems with our network.... ;o)
JH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > You would not qualify as an end user then would you :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of John Hokenson > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > I can replace a SMT component like this in about 10 minutes.... > > JH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:10 PM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > Wouldn't external parts be better? If the lightning arrestor fails but > > the radio is good you can just replace the arrestor. Also, different > > environments require different layers of protection. By adding the > > parts > to > > the base unit you force everyone to pay. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of John Hokenson > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:03 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > > > Looks reasonable to me....probably add $100 or so to the price but > > well worth it since it will be better protected than adding external > > parts. > > > > JH > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "beckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:21 AM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > > > > no we are not, the suggestions would only add $47 in COST 1000 QTY > > > parts. > > It > > > would take away $35 + 14.98 in LPD units required to keep these > > > stable. > > > > > > If we wanted to add a steel case, we are talking 7$ in 1000 qty > > > prices. > > The > > > weather CAT5 nut would be offset by the outdoor seal currently used. > > > The plastic case isn't too cheep ether, I expect they have a > > > per-item cost around $4 > > > > > > The single most expensive cost will be re-tooling. this is why their > > > is often lots of blank spaces on PC boards, for future features. > > > This is why > > I > > > made the suggestion for the 'next pcb rev', as I know they wont be > > > in > > before > > > that. > > > > > > Lets see, recap: > > > 1000 qty prices > > > 1 extra LED with current sense IC (like the one trango uses) .05 > > > 1 W2.4 LPD $23.80 > > > 1 True POE compatible LPD for the CAT5 port $8.50 > > > 1 True POE circuit for the Powershot WITH ground strap $6.30 1 Steel > > > Case with Weather Nut for CAT5, custom stand-offs $7.30 1 Ground > > > Lug for above with strap to connect all internal LPDs $1.40 > > > > > > while they are at it, they may want to add a heat-sink to bleed > > > summer > > heat > > > away. Add another $3 > > > > > > all prices are estimated from past projects I have worked on. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:50 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's just not add so much to the mix that we're adding $100 to the > > > price tag. We went with SmartBridges equipment because of good > > > recommendations, good results in our field tests, and one of the > > > best price/performance ratios. > > > > > > Kevin Summers > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > > www.kistech.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Hokenson > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:11 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > > > > > > I REALLY like the idea of making the Polyphaser antenna protector > > > and ethernet surge arresstor internal to the outdoor unit--and make > > > the case steel or aluminum with a 1/4-20 ground lug as well. The > > > only other mod I would suggest is a system such as used by Trango to > > > put the RJ45 > > connection > > > INSIDE THE BOX. Then, I can run shielded cat5 up, split the ground > > > out > > and > > > attach to the lug and continue inside with the RJ45 connection > > > behind a strain relief gland. > > > > > > John H. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: beckman > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:54 PM > > > Subject: [smartBridges] suggestions for the next PCB revision > > > > > > > > > poly phaser is now making a surface mount LPD unit for 2.4ghz, > > > called the W2.4 with sub 25$ pricing in quantity. In addition, > > > Tripplite has a very simple Cat5 LPD system that can be included > > > with a Smartbridge for less > > than > > > $10 in 1000 qty. To reduce the damage from static, which i think is > > > one of the most common sources for smartbridge problems, and improve > > > quality, > > these > > > may be features we wouldn't mind paying for. Especially since they > > > would reduce the extra parts we already have to buy for a > > > smartbridges install. (we have to buy LPD systems for antenna and > > > cat5 even though this is supposed to be a 'outdoor hardened product' > > > because if we don't, we don't even get 1 weeks life out of them). At > > > the very least, smartbridges REALLY needs to provide up-front > > > warnings in the documentation that such products are needed to make > > > a smartbridges last a while. From the docs I have, > > their > > > is supposed to be surge protection in the powershot, and I have to > > > say > > their > > > isn't a lick of surge protection in the powershot (except maby if > > > you hit > > it > > > with a massive power surge it will burn up!) > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (in the body type unsubscribe > > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the > body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
