(Anyone who's been through the midwest will understand the subject, but
that's not the point of this message....)

I am as upset as anyone with the recent troubles SB is having.

However:

I know that they are working to correct them. It is not the fault of a
vendor if their supplier changes critical components and doesn't tell them
the implications of doing so, or tell them at all. If you would like to
file a Class Action Lawsuit (CAL), your defendant would be Atmel, not SB.

As the technical product manager for the computer network for the largest
railroad in the world, I have the opportunity to work with many hardware
and software vendors. Other than possibly Novell, I have not worked with a
company that has tried harder to work with their customers than SB has.  
I've gotten calls from Sinagapore to try to help me resolve issues.

You ever get a call from anyone in Redmond offering to help with any
issues you may have had with M$ products?

We are all going through a tough time right now, SB as well as the rest of
us. I have personally gotten frustrated and said things on this forum that
probably could have (should have) been presented in a more polite manner.  
And I'm probably going to look to another CPE until SB gets these issues
resolved. But I have to point out that I also have CPEs that I installed
from Oct 2002 until Apr 2003 that are working like the Energizer bunny;  
They keep going and going and going.... And I have an APPO that hasn't
been rebooted in over eight months, and is still going strong. So SB can
(and does) make a great product. Hopefully they'll be able to get back to
where they were, and <side rant> hopefully some people on the list will
stop pushing them so hard to add new things too quickly (you know who you 
are... :)

And if they do push, hopefully SB will resist. :)

-=-

But TnT: Next time, please be respectful (or at least sober) when you post
your flames. (See below for my comical interlude.... :)

Sam


On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Tom & Toni Maris wrote:

> My  husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than $6,000.00 in this 
> gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.

prtoblems? Hmmmm.... Who installed them?

> On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read the fine print 
> on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just replacement units 
> and that you have to have the original box!

Thwy do? 
~
> Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class.
> This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an honest company.

That sounds like slander to me. (Or is it libel?) Maybe time for a class 
action suit.... To imply they are dishonest would imply a willful intent 
to defraud. Other than the TnT show, I don't think anyone on this list 
thinks SB's intent was to defraud anyone. (TnT: That means they never sold 
you anything with the intent to rip you off.)

> First I would like to know where they get off saying anything about Carrier 
> class.

To have a first, there has to be a second.....

> Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why do you need an 
> original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds?

If I were to sned one back they'd probably RMA me a tissue.

<ghezuenteight?>

> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge company 
> stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. 

A lawsuite? How about a whole suite of lawyers? Wait. How about a suite of 
people sneding? 

/more tissues....

>He thinks 

He does?

> that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped off to get a 
> class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this pile of junk

their: shows possession
there: pointing towards

Pretty simple stuff. Not something to be confused, misconstrued, or 
otherwise pondered in the mind of someone considering a lawsuite.

> Very very disapointed

Me too. Flamers should *always* use a spell checker. And in your case, a 
grammer checker <sic> and breathalyzer as well.

                                -=-=-=-=-=-

Sorry... couldn't resist. :)  Besides - I've invested well beyond $6k in 
this. And ya know what? Most all of it works like a champ. 

Sam


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