We've got indoor units in outdoor enclosures working just fine here in the heat.
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Martin Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:48:45 -0700 >I am sure because they are not in the outdoors in the heat? I bet if you put >that "indoor unit" outside in direct sunlight it will lock up just like the >outdoor units and a LOT sooner too. > >just my 2 cents.. > >You have to compare apples to apples This is a good fix but not feasible trying >to fix an existing customer having to run LMR 400 to the new "indoor unit" I >even went as far as thinking of doing this with the outdoor units and mounting >them inside the attic but it gets even hotter in there I took a temp gauge up >there the other day and it measured 125*!!!! when outside it was 105 so as you >can see this probably would not have been a good idea.. > >Martin > > >Quoting John Hokenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> What we've done is just switch to the Indoor AP in bridge mode until this >> issue has been dealt with. They are not suffering from any of the known >> issues. >> >> JH >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware? >> >> >> > Look into reliawave, proxim, or one of the other certified solutions as a >> > temporary measure. That's what we're doing. It's going to cost us more >> up >> > front (trust me, it's more money that we don't really have) but it's >> worth >> > it to keep clients happy and to keep our installs flowing. We have the >> > attitude that for now we are focusing on revenue. We need to get our >> client >> > base up and keep them on so we (all WISPs) don't get known as unreliable. >> > >> > Ray >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:20 PM >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware? >> > >> > >> > > Ray, >> > > >> > > You do have a point but I really dont have any other option financially >> to >> > > choose from this was it I could start using some Linksys wet 11's but >> in >> > other >> > > forums when I was doing research these seemed to work but also had a >> > lockup >> > > problem a while back so I decided to go with a known vendor (Smart >> > bridges) and >> > > I was happy until now. >> > > That's part of my sales pitch I use fully qualified outdoor rated >> radios >> > not >> > > cheap store bought stuff and people like the concept I cant go back on >> my >> > word >> > > now hehehe I think if SB had a good R & D process we would not see as >> many >> > > problems as we do. I think that going forward they or we need to press >> > this >> > > issue so we don't keep getting caught with our pants down. I offered to >> > even >> > > devote many hours of my not so free time to help develop this process >> and >> > even >> > > field any tech calls for them once I get more established and not >> having >> > to do >> > > all the work for my WISP with just my partner and I. I think we can >> make >> > this >> > > product really kick some butt, but we have to have the buy in of smart >> > bridges >> > > and a few key individuals that will be diligent in testing new product >> > (BETA) >> > > and smart bridges will then use this as valuable input before >> implementing >> > any >> > > final changes and we will help with the approval process. I am sure >> there >> > are >> > > many people that are willing to help with this process such as me and >> > those >> > > that have some kind of background with working with engineers and >> > development >> > > people. >> > > >> > > What are your thoughts?? >> > > >> > > Martin >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quoting Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > > >> > > > My concern is that with all we've invested in these products (and I >> > really >> > > > like them) distributors might start to drop them. Think about it, if >> > you >> > > > were Ecomm would you want all this hassle? >> > > > >> > > > I would rather SB recall or at least put a hold on all shipments >> until >> > they >> > > > get this issue fixed. I would rather use another CPE product that >> works >> > so >> > > > I don't look like a dumb a** to my clients by using beta products >> that >> > > > simply aren't yet ready. >> > > > >> > > > I would switch back to SB as soon as the units are again working. >> > > > >> > > > Ray >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:20 PM >> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> firmware? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I would agree with that! >> > > > > I did not catch what Dist they were getting them from? I get mine >> from >> > > > ECOMM >> > > > > and they have been pretty good for the most part. I dont like the >> idea >> > of >> > > > > having a bad unit and they charge your card for the repalcement >> ahead >> > of >> > > > time >> > > > > then refund you when they get the non working one back??? Seems >> > backwards >> > > > to me >> > > > > I pitched a fit and got them to send me an APPO in advance exchange >> > liek >> > > > their >> > > > > warranty clearly states without being charged 1st then charge me if >> I >> > > > dont >> > > > send >> > > > > it back within 10 days. This was after I ordered two new APPO's and >> > one I >> > > > > recieved was a used unit sent back for repair! >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Quoting Eje Gustafsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > > > > >> > > > > > shrug.. Now I am going to shock this entirely list by finally >> > agreeing >> > > > > > with Chris.. Can't agree more with what you just said. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > If they all where bad out of the box or a lot of them where bad >> out >> > of >> > > > > > the box it's the distributor/resellers problem not the >> manufacturers >> > > > > > if teh distributor or reseller don't want to work with you you >> might >> > > > > > try to resolve it with the manufacturer if someone gets sued it >> > should >> > > > > > be the dist not the manufacturer. The manufacturer will not give >> you >> > a >> > > > > > refund. They sold the unit for say $10 and you purchased it for >> $20 >> > > > > > from the dist so should the manufacturer give you a refund for >> $20 >> > and >> > > > > > lose $10 ??? Come on I think not. If someone should give you a >> > refund >> > > > > > it's the dist. However if the dist will not work it out then the >> > > > > > manufacturer can give you a working replacement. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Best regards, >> > > > > > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >> > > > > > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >> > > > > > - Your Full Time Professionals - >> > > > > > eBay UserID : macahan >> > > > > > --- >> > > > > > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. >> > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > p> Ok T n T >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> WOW Talk about a drastic calling for attention in my view, >> most >> > of >> > > > the >> > > > > > p> people on the board are working on resolving problems and your >> > > > response >> > > > > > toa >> > > > > > p> firmware issue is that they are advertised as carrier class >> and >> > that >> > > > > > they >> > > > > > p> don't offer cash refunds? Umm does cisco or lucent? If so I'd >> > gladly >> > > > like >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > p> get my money back on some AP1000's or CPE Ethernet Converters >> and >> > a >> > > > few >> > > > > > p> cisco 350's. A class action suit? Really I have yet to hear >> > anyone >> > > > that >> > > > > > is >> > > > > > p> pissed at the fact that they only exchange units in a timely >> > manner >> > > > and >> > > > > > wont >> > > > > > p> give them there cash back? Personally I don't recall many >> groups >> > > > that >> > > > > > will >> > > > > > p> do cash refunds from the primary company isn't this a point to >> > deal >> > > > with >> > > > > > p> your SUPPLIER if you feel you need to return goods cause you >> > don't >> > > > want >> > > > > > p> them. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> As far as I can tell in the past SB has stood behind there >> > problems >> > > > > > p> including phone calls from half way across the world at 10am >> to >> > help >> > > > > > solve >> > > > > > p> MANY users problems in a one on one basis, they take >> suggestions >> > and >> > > > work >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > p> help mold there product. Really you have invested 6,000$ wow I >> > have >> > > > > > spent >> > > > > > p> over 25,000 upgrading my network with SB's powering it and i >> have >> > > > yet >> > > > to >> > > > > > p> find a reason to neglect the funds spent. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> AS A NOTE IT SAYS >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> DOA Products must be returned in original condition, and the >> > return >> > > > box >> > > > > > must >> > > > > > p> include all components and originally packaged with the >> product, >> > > > > > including >> > > > > > p> cable, software, manual, etc. You must obtain an RMA number >> > before >> > > > you >> > > > > > p> return any defective or DOA products. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> REQUIRES ORIGINAL BOX ON DOA UNITS... DOA MEANS DEAD ON >> ARRIVAL >> > > > HENCE >> > > > > > YOU >> > > > > > p> JUST GOT IT SO THEY WANT IT BACK HOW THEY SENT IT SINCE IT WAS >> > DEAD >> > > > AS >> > > > > > SOON >> > > > > > p> AS YOU GOT IT. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> As for the returning on a one to one basis it is not FINE >> PRINT >> > it >> > > > is >> > > > > > p> blatantly shown in Standard Sized text under the warranty >> > > > conditions. >> > > > > > Not >> > > > > > p> like they used size 1 font to try to hide it from you. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> Sorry if I'm being a di*k but this is just my take on your >> > comment. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> Chris >> > > > > > p> -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > p> From: Tom & Toni Maris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > p> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:44 PM >> > > > > > p> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> My husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than >> > $6,000.00 >> > > > in >> > > > > > this >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> gear and we are constantly having prtoblems. >> > > > > > p> On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read >> the >> > > > fine >> > > > > > print >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just >> > > > replacement >> > > > > > units >> > > > > > p> and that you have to have the original box! >> > > > > > p> Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class. >> > > > > > p> This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an >> honest >> > > > > > company. >> > > > > > p> First I would like to know where they get off saying anything >> > about >> > > > > > Carrier >> > > > > > p> class. >> > > > > > p> Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why >> do >> > you >> > > > need >> > > > > > an >> > > > > > p> original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this >> Smartbridge >> > > > company >> > > > > > p> stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. >> He >> > > > thinks >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped >> off >> > to >> > > > get a >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this >> pile >> > of >> > > > junk >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> Very very disapointed >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > p> T n T >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> > > > firmware? >> > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700 >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the problem >> here >> > We >> > > > hav >> > > > > > >>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2 miles the >> > last >> > > > > > >>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS I had >> > > > sugested >> > > > > > >>there is something going on here and I am finally able to get >> on >> > this >> > > > > > list >> > > > > > >>and post only to see what I have been telling support since >> last >> > week >> > > > > > >>before >> > > > > > >>the release only to be told its been working well in the "LAB" >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be >> tested >> > in >> > > > a >> > > > > > >>consistant manor not just really close up. >> > > > > > >>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if possible >> > > > > > >>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is working >> and >> > how >> > > > > > well >> > > > > > >>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get association >> but >> > > > speeds >> > > > > > >>are >> > > > > > >>WAY down. >> > > > > > >>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of testing >> > before >> > > > ANY >> > > > > > >>final revision is released to save time and nerves of those of >> us >> > in >> > > > the >> > > > > > >>field! >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have been >> > tested >> > > > in >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > >>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something that >> is >> a >> > > > > > secret?? >> > > > > > >>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that are >> > working >> > > > rock >> > > > > > >>solid and have ALL my customers down. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I have >> > seen >> > > > > > >>problems >> > > > > > >>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware is >> > > > compatible >> > > > > > >>with >> > > > > > >>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on the >> > only >> > > > radio >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>we >> > > > > > >>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now >> > doorstops >> > > > > > after >> > > > > > >>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the >> final >> > > > release. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we found the >> > same >> > > > > > thing >> > > > > > >>on rev 2 >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware is >> not >> > > > > > >>compatible >> > > > > > >>with the old good atmel chip per say. >> > > > > > >>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less then a >> > month >> > > > ago so >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>I >> > > > > > >>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come up >> with >> > a >> > > > way >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > >>positively identify which units are suspect with the suspect >> chip. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that you can >> > > > afford >> > > > to >> > > > > > >>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what happens >> is >> > the >> > > > > > radio >> > > > > > >>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to log >> into >> > > > the >> > > > > > >>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you no >> > longer >> > > > get a >> > > > > > >>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and >> don't >> > see >> > > > how >> > > > > > >>that would work since that just resets passwords and the IP >> > address >> > > > etc >> > > > > > but >> > > > > > >>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to unlock >> it >> > but >> > > > > > that >> > > > > > >>was useless because you need a network connection to the radio >> > > > hahaha. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you can >> see >> > in >> > > > our >> > > > > > >>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it works >> well >> > in >> > > > the >> > > > > > >>lab >> > > > > > >>and others have tested as well which I would like to know how >> far >> > > > away >> > > > > > they >> > > > > > >>tested the radio. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5 miles >> we >> > > > > > associate >> > > > > > >>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine and at >> > same >> > > > 3.5 >> > > > > > >>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with rev >> > 0.01.04 >> > > > we >> > > > > > >>get >> > > > > > >>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss. >> > > > > > >>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with firmware >> > > > 0.01.04 >> > > > > > get >> > > > > > >>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final >> revision >> > and >> > > > we >> > > > > > >>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower but we >> > can >> > > > ping >> > > > > > >>ABO >> > > > > > >>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with both >> > > > firmware. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I don't >> > > > understand >> > > > > > >>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing >> issue? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on old >> > radios >> > > > with >> > > > > > >>old >> > > > > > >>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to load the >> > > > 0.01.06 >> > > > > > on >> > > > > > >>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling which >> > radios >> > > > have >> > > > > > >>new or old atmel chip? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs >> > > > > > >>out to 7.2 miles. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > >>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM >> > > > > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> > > > firmware? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Nish, >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this >> morning >> > and >> > > > it >> > > > > > >>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5. We have no >> plans >> > to >> > > > > > update >> > > > > > >>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid. Is there >> > going >> > > > to >> > > > be >> > > > > > >>firmware that will interact this firmware version? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Chris >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>--- >> > > > > > >>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net >> > > > > > >>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities. >> > > > > > >>P.O. Box 55 >> > > > > > >>Wellington, Colorado 80549 >> > > > > > >>970-218-5295 >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >> > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Nish Park >> > > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM >> > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> > > > firmware? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Tim, >> > > > > > >>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still doing the >> > same >> > > > > > >>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July >> purchase?), >> > > > RSSI >> > > > > > and >> > > > > > >>LQ values, Brand of AP? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association at >> > elevated >> > > > > > >>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of all our >> > > > efforts >> > > > > > and >> > > > > > >>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we will >> be >> > > > > > focusing >> > > > > > >>on testing if there has been any other side effects. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are >> trying >> > to >> > > > see >> > > > > > >> >if >> > > > > > >>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of "periodic >> > > > lockup". >> > > > I >> > > > > > >>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but that has >> > not >> > > > been >> > > > > > >>the >> > > > > > >>focus of the current activity on hand. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Thanks for your support. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Nish >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >> > > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >>On Behalf Of Tim Harris >> > > > > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM >> > > > > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> > > > firmware? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit. Had to >> > unplug >> > > > it >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > >>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware. >> Started >> > > > > > working >> > > > > > >>fine. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages, still >> > doing >> > > > the >> > > > > > >>same thing! >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........ >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a point. >> > This >> > > > > > seems >> > > > > > >>to be getting ridiculous. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response >> then.. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>Tim Harris, Operations >> > > > > > >>www.dwisp.net >> > > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > >>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM >> > > > > > >>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new >> > firmware? >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? 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