35 cents and I'll throw in a handful of wet11's!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Flood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?


> Ray, shame on you!   I'll give them 50 cents.  When can they ship!    Must
> be in the original box though....    :-P
>
>
>
> At 02:59 PM 7/20/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >I'll pay you 25 cents on the dollar for your Smartbridges equipment since
> >they don't work.
> >
> >Ray
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stuart Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> >
> >
> > > Sell the stuff then and rip off the rear view mirror. We use more
> >manufacturers than Smartbridges and we have had very little problems with
> >Smartbridges. Sounds like all of your equipment is just not working at
all,
> >so it would be best to just sell it and move on.
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: "Tom & Toni Maris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date:  Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:43:58 -0500
> > >
> > > >My  husband Tom is very pissed. We have invested more than $6,000.00
in
> >this
> > > >gear and we are constantly having prtoblems.
> > > >On their web site thwy claim to be Carrier Class. Now we read the
fine
> >print
> > > >on the rmapage and it says they will not give refund just replacement
> >units
> > > >and that you have to have the original box!
> > > >Original box, replacement unit's, no refunds, Carrier class.
> > > >This SmartBridges company certainly does not sound like an honest
> >company.
> > > >First I would like to know where they get off saying anything about
> >Carrier
> > > >class.
> > > >Then if they are so sure about their Carrier class junk, why do you
need
> >an
> > > >original box to sned them back, and why don't they do refunds?
> > > >
> > > >Tom, has been talking about a lawsuite to make this Smartbridge
company
> > > >stand behind their products or give everyone their money back. He
thinks
> > > >that their is probably enough people like us who got ripped off to
get a
> > > >class action lawsuite against the company who sold us this pile of
junk
> > > >
> > > >Very very disapointed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >T n T
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
firmware?
> > > >>Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:03:47 -0700
> > > >>
> > > >>Okay so it appears I am not the only one having the problem here We
hav
> > > >>users at begining at 3.5 miles and some as far as 7.2 miles the last
> > > >>revision 0.01.06 just will not associate to any of my APS I had
sugested
> > > >>there is something going on here and I am finally able to get on
this
> >list
> > > >>and post only to see what I have been telling support since last
week
> > > >>before
> > > >>the release only to be told its been working well in the "LAB"
> > > >>
> > > >>Here is my post from another forum these things need to be tested in
a
> > > >>consistant manor not just really close up.
> > > >>1. Measure signal at 1, 2, 3, 4,5 ,6 and 7 miles if possible
> > > >>2. At each point do some speed tests to confirm it is working and
how
> >well
> > > >>or how bad as you can see at some ares out we get association but
speeds
> > > >>are
> > > >>WAY down.
> > > >>These are only 2 that need to be added to the list of testing before
ANY
> > > >>final revision is released to save time and nerves of those of us in
the
> > > >>field!
> > > >>
> > > >>I keep asking what is the closest and farthest they have been tested
in
> >the
> > > >>"LAB" and I have yet to get an answer? is this something that is a
> >secret??
> > > >>I too am not going to change firmware on the APPOS that are working
rock
> > > >>solid and have ALL my customers down.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  We have tried it (ver 0.01.06 rev 3 final release )and I have seen
> > > >>problems
> > > >>but to be fair we still need to identify if this firmware is
compatible
> > > >>with
> > > >>the OLD atmel chip they had. We tried this new firmware on the only
> >radio
> > > >>we
> > > >>have left since the other 2 locked up hardcore and are now doorstops
> >after
> > > >>doing firmware upgrades with rev 2 & rev 3 just before the final
> >release.
> > > >>
> > > >>Here is what we found after 3 hours of testing and we found the same
> >thing
> > > >>on rev 2
> > > >>
> > > >>I don't how you guys feel about it and maybe this firmware is not
> > > >>compatible
> > > >>with the old good atmel chip per say.
> > > >>The two test radios that locked up we just bought less then a month
ago
> >so
> > > >>I
> > > >>can only assume they had the problem. Unless they can come up with a
way
> >to
> > > >>positively identify which units are suspect with the suspect chip.
> > > >>
> > > >>I suggest you do the same tests with a spare radio that you can
afford
> >to
> > > >>lose if the firmware upgrade goes bad. Basically what happens is the
> >radio
> > > >>locks up and it no longer gives an Ethernet connection to log into
the
> > > >>radio, the power and wireless light stay on solid and you no longer
get
> >a
> > > >>LAN connection or light many times I was told to reset and don't see
how
> > > >>that would work since that just resets passwords and the IP address
etc
> >but
> > > >>I tried 20 times anyways they even sent me a utility to unlock it
but
> >that
> > > >>was useless because you need a network connection to the radio
hahaha.
> > > >>
> > > >>Anyways in a nut shell the firmware after testing as you can see in
our
> > > >>notes does not work for us yet Smart bridges claims it works well in
the
> > > >>lab
> > > >>and others have tested as well which I would like to know how far
away
> >they
> > > >>tested the radio.
> > > >>
> > > >>1. ver 0.01.04 loaded originally on this unit and at 3.5 miles we
> >associate
> > > >>fine and get download speeds in 900kbps to 1.2 megs
> > > >>
> > > >>2. Loaded ver 0.01.06 final rev into radio it loads fine and at same
3.5
> > > >>mile location we get not even half the speeds we did with rev
0.01.04 we
> > > >>get
> > > >>200kbps to 300kbps at most and have lots of packet loss.
> > > >>RSSI 85% and signal quality 90-95% with both firmware.
> > > >>
> > > >>3. Moved to 5 mile location ran same speed tests with firmware
0.01.04
> >get
> > > >>speeds of 800kbps consistently loaded ver 0.01.06 final revision and
we
> > > >>associate but thats it radio will not ping APPO on tower but we can
ping
> > > >>ABO
> > > >>radio with new firmware. RSSI 80% signal quality 80% with both
firmware.
> > > >>
> > > >>So as you can see this firmware will not work for us. I don't
understand
> > > >>what happened it seems that this is now possibly a timing issue?
> > > >>
> > > >>The only question I have is will version 0.01.06 work on old radios
with
> > > >>old
> > > >>atmel chip? and if not then we will proceed further to load the
0.01.06
> >on
> > > >>clients radios but once again we have no way of telling which radios
> >have
> > > >>new or old atmel chip?
> > > >>
> > > >>Our coverage area begins at 3.5 miles and runs
> > > >>out to 7.2 miles.
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Colorado Wisp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:18 PM
> > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
firmware?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Nish,
> > > >>
> > > >>We updated several of one of our "overheating" units this morning
and it
> > > >>will not associate with our APs running 1.4j.5.  We have no plans to
> >update
> > > >>the firmware on the APs, they have been rock solid.  Is there going
to
> >be
> > > >>firmware that will interact this firmware version?
> > > >>
> > > >>Chris
> > > >>
> > > >>---
> > > >>Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net
> > > >>Bringing high speed internet to rural communities.
> > > >>P.O. Box 55
> > > >>Wellington, Colorado  80549
> > > >>970-218-5295
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>On Behalf Of Nish Park
> > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:49 AM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
firmware?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Tim,
> > > >>Can you please elaborate a little more on this "still doing the same
> > > >>thing!". What was the problem, new unit (June or July purchase?),
RSSI
> >and
> > > >>LQ values, Brand of AP?
> > > >>
> > > >>We have confirmed that the problem of loosing association at
elevated
> > > >>temperature has been solved. This has been the focus of all our
efforts
> >and
> > > >>we are quire confident that issue no longer exist. Now we will be
> >focusing
> > > >>on testing if there has been any other side effects.
> > > >>
> > > >> >From some of the emails it appears that some of you are trying to
see
> > > >> >if
> > > >>the new F/W also fixes the old/lingering problem of "periodic
lockup". I
> > > >>will be pleasantly surprised to hear that it does, but that has not
been
> > > >>the
> > > >>focus of the current activity on hand.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks for your support.
> > > >>
> > > >>Nish
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>On Behalf Of Tim Harris
> > > >>Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:32 PM
> > > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new
firmware?
> > > >>
> > > >>Yep, I installed it this afternoon on a client's unit.  Had to
unplug it
> >to
> > > >>get it to start working after uploading the new firmware.  Started
> >working
> > > >>fine.
> > > >>
> > > >>Customer called back an hour later and left two messages, still
doing
> >the
> > > >>same thing!
> > > >>
> > > >>If it smells like it, if it looks like it........
> > > >>
> > > >>Hmm, maybe the guy with the Hotmail address might have a point.
This
> >seems
> > > >>to be getting ridiculous.
> > > >>
> > > >>I'm doing two more tomorrow morning, I'll post a response then..
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Tim Harris, Operations
> > > >>www.dwisp.net
> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > >>Subject: [smartBridges] Anyone having issues with the new firmware?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Has anyone installed the new firmware? I'm getting ready to try,
but
> > > >> > wanted to check first to see what sort of luck others have had.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > Sam
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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