Waterproofing the waterproof connector
 
They could change this now and put the ethernet jack inside the radio
We wouldn't be talking about waterproofing this
 
This is a poorly designed connector and smartBridges would be smart to quit using it
I said this the first time I saw it, a pool of water could form at the end of the connector
 
Once you tighten the end and the little plastic basket digs into the cat5 cable, it is extremely hard to get apart
You still have this non shielded tail hanging down from the radio
 
Also, had one radio loosing association, looks like when it heated, the signal level would drop to half, then it would lose
association
Upgraded the software yesterday and have not heard from the customer today
We have been on hold as far as deploying any new radios till the bugs were gone
 
Just an observation
 
Joe K
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Are Ethernet connections sensitive to rust & oxide????

I install them without anything thinking they were waterproof maybe I need to go back and check them all now after reading up on this. I usually try and cable tie them so the ends are NOT facing up and down and so far that has worked. We have not had a lot of rain here in CA so that might be a good thing and why I have not seen any problems but when I do is there any particular symptoms to look for other then strange radio behavior? could SB possible include a small roll of Monkey Snot with each radio? I know when I order a 5 pack of ants from my vendor in the box are 5 small rolls of that mastic tap that works AWESOME! to seal up the N connector..
 
I mean come on how many monkeys does it take to blow their nose to collect enough snot to give to us for free heheheheh
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Are Ethernet connections sensitive to rust & oxide????

How are most people installing them?? 
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Are Ethernet connections sensitive to rust & oxide????

The point is that the connector is not very waterproof the way most people install them.  In that case, yes, it will corrode.

Kevin

Pascal Losier wrote:
I use the black Mastic which seal it.... The tape is only to protect the
mastic from the sun.

You need tape & mastic.......mastic alone will shrink, Tape alone will
leak..


What I mean is...  If the connector is watherproof....... Will it rust ?





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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Are Ethernet connections sensitive to rust &
oxide????


I don't trust using black tape, it's not waterproof.  You can think it
us, but it's not.  If your going to have a RJ-45 connection outside, use
a weather proofing kit.  It's basically a highly malleable tar like
substance that you mold around the entire connector.  Makes it totally
waterproof in all kinds of weather.

It either that, or for the couplers I use silicone around the entire
thing. Not a light coating of it, but a nice large amount.  I've cut off
the silicone after a nice hard rain, and they've always been dry as a
bone. When I first started doing I wrapped them a large amount of black
tape, and I always had a problem with corrosion after a few months.  Now
I don't have any problems.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 22:04
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Are ethernet connection sensible to rust &
oxide????


I'm not an expert and can't quote scientific studies, but I can say YES,
cat5 connections are totally screwed up by oxidation and corrosion.
You'll get weird behavior that is very hard to figure out logically.
Remove the corroded parts and everything starts to work as planned. The
main thing to avoid is the moisture that causes the rust and corrosion.

Pascal Losier wrote:

  
I used waterproofing mastic and tape on the regular sheilded RJ-45C 
connector.

Once you waterproof your installs with black mastic & Tape,

No water will ever get in.

I dont trust those little fitting on APP.... So I remove it.


But How about rust,...

Are ethernet connection sensible to rust & oxide ????

Im in satellite buisness since last 10 years so my connector use to be
    

  
coaxials. They are a lot bigger.
So rust & cold connection were not an issue.

Are ethernet connection sensible to rust & oxide ????




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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cat5 for outdoor installs


A few days ago, I had one of my most important customers go completely
    

  
off the air. I did a lot of trouble shooting and found out it was the 
airBridge Total "waterproof" connector had allowed water in. Maybe I 
don't know the correct way to install it, I thought I did. But after 
drying out the connectors, recrimping the end towards the house, it 
still wouldn't work. I cut off about a foot of the cable going into 
the house and pulled out some of the individual wires, they were wet 
inside the jacket. This customer now has gel-filled cable going from 
the connector to the router ... *and* I used waterproofing mastic and 
tape on the waterproof connector.

Laurence Laforga wrote:


    
Is that one gel-filled? I recall someone saying that the gel-filled is
      

  
ideal for underground type of install and that just the UV rated ones 
are required and cheaper for outdoor installs on roofs and such.



      
I use the Tyco brand for CSC and don't have a problem with crimping.



        
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cat5 for outdoor installs


I concur that it is a PITA to crimp! Anyone know if there are
          
connectors


      
that fit it better to make crimping easier?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Cat5 for outdoor installs




          
prefix: cwc
part # 5exho4p24bkrmohpv

This is the gel-filled type. Seems to be very good quality, but
            
a PITA


      
to crimp.

David Ross Buckley wrote:



            
I recall some posts awhile back about recommended cat5 cable
              
for outdoor


          
installs. I believe someone even gave a part number from
              
Graybar. If


      
possible can we get that number again, it would be greatly
              
appreciated.


          
Thanks in advance.
              


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