Mark In Europe after 911, ISP's were required to keep their logs for an extended period of time, I think 3 months for the purpose of security. I'm sure their is some European ISP's on these list somewhere who can explain this better than I.
This country is following suite and a number of states have passed laws that a lot of us either don't know about or understand very well. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a result of the new Patriot Act and extended rights of investigating and information gathering of our police agencies. One such law was that NAT was illegal or so it seemed that is what the law said. Any ISP who would play with fire, by not co-operating with the authorities investigating criminal behavior might just find himself in violation of one of these new laws and also charged with obstruction of justice. Don't you think it would be wise not to go the route of 'head butting' the authorities when it comes to your own families' well being? Generally in business, one wouldn't start taking political stances on delicate issues that have an adverse affect of their future ability to conduct business. Just my opinion. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static > Claim your records and methods are insufficiently reliable to sustain > criminal prosecution. > > Let them try to weasel out of that one :) > > > NEOFAST.NET > North > East > Oregon > FAST > Net > mark(at)neofast.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static > > > > And that's what they will do. Ask Verizon. They fought it, and a federal > > court of appeals upheld that they had to turn over the names of who had > > what ip when, so that the RIAA could go after them. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Tim Harris wrote: > > > > > Hey! The only way anyone outside of my organization gets any IP > information > > > regarding who has what IP address is with a SUBPOENA! > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03 > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
