Correct when a masqueraded client (ie he has a private ip) then YOUR public IP on your router is displayed to the other end.
For example my IP on my workstation at my homenetwork is 192.168.0.149 when I go to a webpage or anything else towards the net my NAT/masquerade routers IP is the one that is displayed to the other side (in my case 65.173.197.3). If I would NAT at my head router it would show up as being 65.173.197.253 instead of .3. I have numerous clients behind that .253 router so if I would NAT there I have no way of telling what client might have done what at any point in time in the past. However I know that .3 belongs to "me" and that .5 belongs to this client and .7 to that client. What they then do on their inside is up to them. If they NAT that still means that the traffic is coming from THEIR household and if they are doing illegal activities on the net after I provided the lawenforcement with the client name and address that "owned" that IP in question my hands are "clean". If I would NAT them and not doing a 1 to 1 NAT then I can't tell who it was unless they say that right now your machine is now passing traffic to machine X then I could check up and see who the traffic originates from. Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 - Your Full Time Professionals - eBay UserID : macahan --- searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ -- G> Eje G> Can you explain more. G> I'm not a network guy, I think you know that already, others do that around G> here. G> Are you saying when my subs go to certain sites or use their kazaa that the G> single public ip addy is displayed and not their private ip addy that I G> assign them? G> George G> ----- Original Message ----- G> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> G> To: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> G> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:50 PM G> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static >> But if you get a public ip that is your masquerading machines IP you >> can not tell what client was causing that traffic 5 days ago. You >> would have to catch them "in the act" to determin what client that >> traffic originates from.... However I see possible lawsuits happen >> when you do it that way. Because all a sudden your not only the >> carrier your also the "anonymizer". >> >> Best regards, >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 >> - Your Full Time Professionals - >> Mikrotik OEM - Online Store http://www.fament.com/catalog/ >> -- >> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. >> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ >> -- >> G> But why wouldn't you have that information? >> G> Are you running NAT and DHCP so that each time a client turns on he G> gets a >> G> different IP addy? >> G> I run NAT on a lot of my micro pops and use static IP's. I know each of G> my >> G> subs IP addresses public or private. >> G> George >> >> G> ----- Original Message ----- >> G> From: "Jerry Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> G> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> G> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:53 PM >> G> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static >> >> >> >> What if you run NAT and do not have the information? >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:52 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static >> >> >> >> >> >> > And that's what they will do. Ask Verizon. They fought it, and a G> federal >> >> > court of appeals upheld that they had to turn over the names of who G> had >> >> > what ip when, so that the RIAA could go after them. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Tim Harris wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Hey! 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