Thats not strictly true, at least not in the UK. Such a 'bill' is, to my
knowledge, still undergoing a consultation period. The difficulties in
storing all this information, especially for large scale ISP's makes these
proposals rather hard to implement. I believe at one point, someone in our
government proposed that ISP's log all information for 10 years - shows the
differences in the sort of people who pass & propose the laws, to those who
are forced to abide by them :\

Oh well -

Colin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static


> Mark
> In Europe after 911, ISP's were required to keep their logs for an
extended
> period of time, I think 3 months for the purpose of security. I'm sure
their
> is some European ISP's on these list somewhere who can explain this better
> than I.
>
> This country is following suite and a number of states have passed laws
that
> a lot of us either don't know about or understand very well. I wouldn't be
> surprised if it wasn't a result of the new Patriot Act and extended rights
> of investigating and information gathering of our police agencies.
>
> One such law was that NAT was illegal or so it seemed that is what the law
> said.
>
> Any ISP who would play with fire, by not co-operating with the authorities
> investigating criminal behavior might just find himself in violation of
one
> of these new laws and also charged with obstruction of justice.
> Don't you think it would be wise not to go the route of 'head butting' the
> authorities when it comes to your own families' well being?
> Generally in business, one wouldn't start taking political stances on
> delicate issues that have an adverse affect of their future ability to
> conduct business.
>
> Just my opinion.
> George
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static
>
>
> > Claim your records and methods are insufficiently reliable to sustain
> > criminal prosecution.
> >
> > Let them try to weasel out of that one :)
> >
> >
> > NEOFAST.NET
> > North
> > East
> > Oregon
> > FAST
> > Net
> > mark(at)neofast.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] DHCP vs static
> >
> >
> > > And that's what they will do. Ask Verizon. They fought it, and a
federal
> > > court of appeals upheld that they had to turn over the names of who
had
> > > what ip when, so that the RIAA could go after them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Tim Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey!  The only way anyone outside of my organization gets any IP
> > information
> > > > regarding who has what IP address is with a SUBPOENA!
> > >
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