----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:55
AM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] APPO
furstrations..
Maybe shud change that link to a more bold one.... 1500 seems
high since the MTU max normal for smtp as someone mentioned is like 1428 as I
recall..
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Nish
Park [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 3:06 AM
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Look at the second last line of the page. It is a download
link.
(I wonder why our web guys made it look like a small print
:-)
Nish
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From:
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On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
Sent: Sunday, August 17,
2003 3:01 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
Well the link you sent me to tells about it and just says it
will be
loaded
when you load
simple monitor it does not tell me where to get the stand
alone version???/. I have been setting all PC's to 1500 which I
have
seen
them pretty much all
set that way anyways...
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Nish Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday,
August 16, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges]
APPO furstrations..
Martin,
That is why we have the
standalone version. You just run it once and it
will
change the Windows settings. No need to have it running. Or as
Chris mentioned, you can use any other tweak software. We
have tried to
optimize the settings for our
equipment.
This OS optimization is required for the wireless networks and
no way
getting around it. The OS was basically
optimized for wired LANs and
requires tweaking to work
properly for WANs.
Nish
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From:
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On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
Sent: Sunday, August 17,
2003 1:53 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
Okay so how does this software help the customer if don't load
anything
on
their PC?? this
says it is automatically loaded when I load simple
monitor???? I do not load simple monitor on their computer for the
plain
simple fact it creates LESS headaches of end
users screwing with stuff..
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Nish Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday,
August 16, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges]
APPO furstrations..
I wonder if this problem is related to the longer link
delay/MTU
settings. You may try the simpleSpeed
software to validate this idea.
http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/simpleSpeed.php
Nish
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From:
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On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
Sent: Sunday, August 17,
2003 10:52 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
Well most the ones having problems I would say are at 5 miles
or more
the
ones close up are
at 3.5 miles and seem to do okay..
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Nish Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday,
August 16, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges]
APPO furstrations..
Martin,
What are the distances from the aPPO for these clients? I
noticed at the
bottom of this email you mention that
the clients close by are ok?
By the way we have people report up to 40 to 60 clients on an
aPPO. You
can have up to 128 associated but many would
be idle.
Nish
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Sent: Sunday, August 17,
2003 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
1 Please read all past posts most all your questions are
answered there.
2. I have 56 clients all associated to
2 different APPO's that tie into
one
5 port switch that is back fed by a canopy system for backhaul to
the
t-1
3. I have users who are throttled at anywhere from 386 down to
900KBPS
down
4. How the hell do you know what speed you are associated at?
unless
there
is some magic
window somewhere on SB equipment that tells me what I am
associated with I.E 11 meg 5.5 2 or 1 meg I don't see it.
5. I have a bandwidth manager so I can see exactly HOW MUCH
bandwidth
they
are chewing at
any given time.
6. to determine what most are downloading I do a TCP IP dump
and see
most
99% are web
browsing or downloading a file from a webserver.
7 OHHYY VEYy signal level like I stated 3 times in previous
posts all
clients are on RSSI 80% -100% Link
quality jumps from 90%-95% This is
measured at THE
AP!
Of course I do not allow client to client communication
I have left nothing out?? its all in the previous
thread?????
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
"Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
Question how many customers do you have that are running in
2Mbit or
1Mbit mode ?
Unless
there been some serious changes in the latest firmwares and in
the new hardware have 3-4 people download a combined 500kbps
should be
no problem.
But from
your explanation it sounds like there is another problem
somewhere.
What are the signal levels of your
clients ? what speeds are they
associated at ? If you
have ONE active client assoicated at 1Mbit
speeds then
your entire cell is running in 1Mbit mode so figure around
300-500kbit throughput.
How do you determine
they are sending 500Kbit ? How many packages are
they
transferring ? What type of traffic ? do you allow client to
client communication ?
You leave out a lot for
us to properly figure out why your cell is
running so
slow.
Best regards,
Eje
Gustafsson
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Network http://www.fament.com
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BW> I have switched to many
channels and having both at chan 3 work the
best.
BW> Yes I was doing tests while others
were downloading and those were
the
times
BW> people were complaining. Your
right that you think it is net
congestion
but
BW> should it not handle more
then just a few users who when downloading
are
BW> only downloading at minimal speeds. I mean it should
not get that
bad
when
BW> only a couple users are on and say a 4th or 5th person
gets on and
cant
even
BW> surf and gets page can not be displayed errors because
the net is so
BW> congested and the bottle neck is
at the APPO? When the system is
hammered
BW> ( 4-5 users downloading no more then say 500KBPS
combined) I can
ping my
BW>
backhaul radio at the tower (canopy stuff) and it is fine. If I try
and
ping
BW> an APPO while its hammered with users I time out all over the
place!
BW> ----- Original Message -----
BW> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
BW>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
BW> Sent:
Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:16 PM
BW> Subject: Re:
[smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
BW> Are you running your download tests when none of your
other
customers
are
BW> using the system? Previously you mentioned that
you're throttling
some
BW>
users
BW> at 900k. If you get 4 or 5 of those
all downloading simultaneously
on
an 11
BW> meg system, you're going to end up
with a saturated network. If
you've
got
BW> a
BW> few of those guys running Kazaa, for example, it'll kill
your
network.
If
BW> you're running your tests at the same time that
they're downloading,
you'll
BW> probably have trouble.
BW> Also, are you sure that your AP is running at 11
mbps? Maybe for
some
BW> reason
BW> it's running at 2 or even
1 mbps. Even if you don't have it set to
run
at 1
BW> or 2,
maybe interferrence is causing it to auto-fallback.
BW> Have you tried switching channels, to see what
happens. I've had
problems
BW> before running on a particular channel, even though from
everything
I
could
BW> tell there was no more noise on that channel than on
any other.
Switching
BW>
to
BW> another channel fixed it.
BW> Craig
BW> Quoting Blazen Wireless
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Okay I have ran test on idle computers and get
terrible pings and
time
BW>
outs
>> when others are either downloading or
uploading via the same radio
and a
>> little better pings if the clients are on different
radios (appo's)
>> Throughput test just
plain suck when someone is on downloading say a
file
>> at
>> 500kbps and I tray to download a file from my local webserver
within
our
>> own
>> network over the APPO's. So it seems that with 20
people or so we
have
>>
maxed
>> out these radios? I thought 128 was the
max? If it cant handle more
then
BW> 20
>> people I am going to ditch
this whole project and go back to Orinoco
BW>
stuff.
>> I cant keep having people complain.
This all happened after switching
both
>> AP to APPO's
>>
>>
>> What is the max
anyone has on any one APPO right now and what is the
max
>> users you have seen on at they
same time and have you run tests to
see
BW> what
>> the download
upload is on one or two of the clients?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colin Watson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent:
Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM
>> Subject: Re:
[smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
>>
>>
>> I'd give:
http://www.ixiacom.com/enterprise/Chariot.php?section=10#console
>> a
>> try. Grab the
console, install it on your laptop, grab the endpoint
for
BW> the
>>
consumer's PC, and get them to run it. Then conduct throughput tests
via
>> the
>> chariot console from the backbone side of the AP through to
the
customer.
>> Should
provide you information on throughput TCP/UDP etc.
>>
>> ----- Original Message
-----
>> From: "Blazen Wireless"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent:
Friday, August 15, 2003 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re:
[smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
>>
>>
>> > 1 queue per
customer on the software..
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
Original Message -----
>> > From: "Gino A.
Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent:
Friday, August 15, 2003 4:09 AM
>> > Subject:
RE: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
>>
>
>> >
>>
> How are you setting your queques?, the BCU has individual queques,
are
>> you
>> > using 1 queque per customer or are you using 1 queque for
many
BW> customers?
>> >
>> > Gino
>> >
>> >
-----Original Message-----
>> > From:
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>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
>> > Sent: Friday,
August 15, 2003 1:10 AM
>> > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re:
[smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
>>
>
>> >
>>
> I am using a BCU between the t-1 router and the clients
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Blazen Wireless"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent:
Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:00 PM
>> >
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] APPO furstrations..
>> >
>> >
>> > You need a bandwidth manager on your network and
bandwidth limit
your
>>
> clients.
>> >
>> > Plus if your doing a completely bridge network then you
seriously
>> > needs to start doing some
routing on your network or else things
will
>> > not work.
>>
>
>> > Best regards,
>> > Eje
Gustafsson
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > The Family Entertainment
Network http://www.fament.com
>> >
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620-231-7777
Fax : 620-231-4066
>>
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>> > BW>
Okay guys here is a question I know SB says they can have up to
128
>> > clients associated
to the APPO. I have aprox 22 on each one and
they
are
>> >
totally crapping out by that mean I get 4-5 users on
>> > BW> downloading at any given time and I swear to you
pings just go
to
>>
hell
>> > as high as 200-300 and lows about
30ms. I have tried EVERYTHING RTS
CTS
>> > different channels WEP no WEP anything and
>> > BW> everything and it has got me by the
balls and I am tired of
clients
>> > calling me complaining it is slow. It used to be awesome
with 4-5
users
>> >
total on it and even 10 users but after that its just
>> > BW> gone down hill.
>>
>
>> > BW> Any suggestion would GREATLY
be appreciated.
>> >
>> > BW> two APPO's each connected to a 500mw Amp 50 ft of
coax LMR 400
and
>>
then
>> > to a 13DB 90* pac wireless ant one
facing north and one facing
south
BW> both
>> on
>> > chan 3 I know I know you will say interference
>> > BW> from each other I tried separating and
it made no difference it
>> actually
>> > got worse I even had one appo in client bridge
mode to check
BW> interference
>> > and I saw nothing form the APPO right next to it
>> > BW> and very few other Access points out in
the field. Most were at
rssi
>> 20
>> > maybe 30% and link
20%.
>> >
>>
>
>> > BW> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me
with any ideas I am all out I have
>>
worked
>> > on this all week I have a remote
pop that is fed by the main two
APPO's
>> and
>> > the two
customers on that radio can ping the
>> >
BW> remote appo all day long with less then 5 ms yet when you try
and
>> ping
>> > the main appos the pings are all over the place..
>> >
>> > BW> Oh
yea most all signals at eh APPO's from the client show (not
sure
>> how
>> > accurate) 80 -100 RSSI some just under 80% and link about
the same
so I
>> >
don't know if this could hamper it I have tried
>> > BW> with a couple clients setting the APPO and ABO to
autofallback
BW> speeds
>> > and that seemed to help for a couple people that were far
out about
4-5
>> >
miles people up close seem to be fine..
>>
>
>> > BW> 13-19db ants on each
install
>> >
>>
> BW> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>
>
>> >
>>
> BW> Martin
>> >
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