Well, that is what I had heard from others, so decided to try the BriLan.  I
got as far as loading the software on the box, gave it an IP, and put it on
my network but couldn't see it.  Basically, I couldn't figure out what to do
with it and gave up.  Then Eje suggested the MikroTik and it seemed easy the
way he told me to set it up, but I can't get the CD version of the software
to load on my box, which I know is a working PC.  Truthfully, I have had
very little time to work on it, I've been so busy getting everything else up
and running and dealing with customers, that I haven't had a lot of time to
spend on it.  But I couldn't get either the BriLan or the MikroTik software
to load and work, and I know the box we put them on is good.

Gloria

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication


> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has more features
but
> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan demo keep in
mind
> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get another 2
hours I
> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on those all in one
machiens
> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a 1/2 hour
> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the gui as well
as
> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support forget ti I
went
> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure out how to do bridge
mode
> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is awesome and sometimes
> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is awesome..
>
>
>
>
> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth queue then mac
> autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other thigns to
throttle
> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me less then 2
min
> to configure a user..
>
>
> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router software I
downloaded
> > and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it?  I have burned
the CD
> > three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load.  When I
try to
> > boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about loading
a
> > kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that continues
rolling
> > until you shut it off.  We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 700 MHz
AMD
> > proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card.  Any ideas?  I have been on
the
> > air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, even though I am
selling
> > tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything working.
I
> > tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the MikroTik
won't
> > even load.
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Gloria
> >
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Kevin Summers
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> >   The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might
> >   have laying around. Throw two network cards into it and you've got
> >   a router.
> >   Kevin Summers
> >   KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> >   www.kistech.com
> >
> >
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevak Avakians
> >     Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM
> >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> >
> >
> >     Hi Kevin,
> >
> >     I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be software
that
> > runs on a desktop.  Is this correct or is it a separate piece of
hardware
> > similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Sevak
> >
> >     On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote:
> > Actually it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the
> > DHCP addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from
> > the PPPoE login.
> >
> > The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. Through
> > the use of Firewall rules we've set things up to allow a link from
> > the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web server so that
> > people can sign up.
> >
> > Kevin Summers
> > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > www.kistech.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > Question,
> > >
> > > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ?  The PPPOE does that
> > > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a custoemer
assoicates
> > > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they could only get to
my
> > > webserver?  or a speical page saying, you can get our signal ??
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and HotSpot
> > > > authentication using username and password. No WEP encryption on
> > > > any of the network. If it's so insecure, why take the performance
> > > > hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot anyway...
> > > >
> > > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a private
> > > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given either their NATed
> > > > private DHCP IP, or their public static IP.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Summers
> > > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > > www.kistech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudolph
Worrell
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you authenticate your customers?  I am simply suing WEP and
a
> > > DHCP
> > > > > server.
> > > > >
> > > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool?  I have 1000 but I am
> > > > > not sure it
> > > > > will be enough when I get up to about 250 customers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and this
works
> > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else doing this?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rudolph Worrell
> > > > > President
> > > > > Phone:(540)664-3950
> > > > > Fax:(270)458-6431
> > > > > www.wave2net.com
> > > > >
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