Kevin

I have some of those 24 db wire grid antennas I got from your company. 
Would those work better than 24 db yagis (or do they even make such a 
thing?)  I was thinking that perhaps the narrower beam on a yagi might be 
better (though I have honestly never used a yagi before.).

Sevak: The solar panel would be a last resort. I *think* there is a silo 
in the middle of this that does have power and might have LOS between the 
two, but I'm not sure. But if I do that, I'm looking at two APPOs 
($660.00) and two antennas ($150.00) and giving the silo owner free 
internet service ($17.95 per month), all for one customer. So that 
wouldn't really be worth it, though I agree that it is the ideal solution.


Thanks
Sam

 On Mon, 27 Oct 
2003, Kevin Proctor wrote:

> Sam,
> 
> Passive repeaters can work in some instances.  The key factor is gain
> and electrical separation.  I have done it in the Denver area on a
> microwave video link to get around the Downtown area with a pair of 4'
> solid dishes.  It works, but not always.
> 
> Here is something to TRY.  No guarantees that it will work for you, but
> it is worth a try.  If you were to ask me what the probability was I
> would say it was a very firm and definite maybe.
> 
> Use 2 24 dbi grid dishes (19 dbi panels might actually be better due to
> the signal rejection they offer to the rear.) and separate them
> vertically by at least 5' on the mast.  Connect them with as short a
> piece of cable as you can.  Use good practice. As in: drip loops, etc,
> but keep the cable as short as you can and make it LMR400 or an
> equivalent or better.  Hard-line would be best.  Get things aimed up
> using a laptop hooked to each antenna individually via whatever radios
> you need to connect to each end.
> 
> Like I said, this works sometimes.  Electrical separation so the
> antennas do not cancel each other out and antenna gain are key.  
> 
> Kevin B. Proctor
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:11 PM
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> Subject: [smartBridges] Passive Repeaters
> 
> Has anyone used a passive repeater before? (I may be calling that the
> wrong thing....it's where you wire two antennas together with just a
> piece
> of LMR-400 to relay or "bounce" signal around a corner, over a hill,
> etc.)
> 
> I have a customer that has a hill in between him and my AP.
> 
> 
>        /\
>       /  \
> AP     /    \ Customer
> 
> The distance from the AP to the top of the hill is about one mile, clear
> 
> line of site. From the top of the hill to my customer is about .5 miles,
> 
> clear line of site. There is no electricity out there, no other
> customers 
> to be gained by putting up another AP( or APPO to bridge the signal) so 
> this is really the only cost-effective way to do it that I can think of.
> 
> IO was thinking about two yagis on top ot the hill, one pointing at the
> AP 
> and the other at the customer, and then giving the customer a yagi too.
> 
> Will this work?
> 
> Thanks
> Sam
> 
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