We do have a FR upstream, I have to look at those settings to see if its 
there.  (Thought of that, but no way of checking now).  No Radius or 
PPPoE.  So only place to look is the FR connection.

FYI:  350's do not use IOS..  they use VxWorks.  The new 1200's 
(replacing the 350 product line) come with VxWorks standard and an IOS 
upgrade capability..  Not sure I should upgrade or not....  VxWorks is 
pretty damn simple and seems to do just fine...  The VxWorks though 
doesn't have a CLI...  so I can't do that but from the literature on the 
350 radios I have found the MTU is default 1500).

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Genovesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:15:50 -0800
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] switch

> Scott,
> 
> I think MTU 576 is/was often used for dial-up connections (and 
> frame-relay).  If you are using Radius to authenticate users, or
> something 
> else to profile users (ie PPPoE) make sure there isn't an undesirable
> MTU 
> setting in there somewhere.
> 
> I've used a Cisco 350, but if the IOS is similiar to everything else do
> "sh 
> run | i 576" to see if it's in the AP.
> 
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
> At 02:03 PM 11/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Actually that is a really good point.  MS's and Cisco's default MTU is
> >1500, and we had him set his router to MTU size of 1480.  But that
> >doesn't explain the download size.. (576 default?  on what kind of
> >device... from what I read of both Sb, MS and Cisco (can't find
> anything
> >on Trango, but I bet its default is per IEEE specs at 1500 as well)
> all
> >have default MTU's of 1500.  But good point.. solves one side of the
> >equation (i.e. validates the upload parameters..)
> >
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rob Genovesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:36:57 -0800
> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] switch
> >
> > > MTU settings?  Just came to mind because 579 is close to the
> default
> > > frame
> > > MTU of 576.
> > >
> > > -rob
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:27 PM 11/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Here is an example I just yanked:
> > > >
> > > >AP Ethernet (bytes per minute)                 Radio (packets per
> > > minute)
> > > >
> > > >In (Upload if all going out): 480,000          Out (Upload): 3288
> > > >Out (Download): 3,272,000                      In (Download): 5647
> > > >
> > > >That means the upload packets have a payload of about 1463 Bytes
> per
> > > >packet; where as the download has a payload of 579 bytes per
> packet.
> > > I
> > > >guess it would make sense, since MS will cram the heck out of a
> packet
> > > on
> > > >attachments, but I am more thinking that not all 480,000 bytes are
> > > making
> > > >it out through the radio....
> > > >
> > > >Thoughts?  (Graphs attached)
> > > >
> > > >btw:  AP: Cisco AP 350
> > > >       CPE: SB ABT
> > >
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