How were you doing that with sB products in the past?

Sully

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 15.org] On Behalf Of John Hokenson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> 
> Every install we do is done to NEC standards.
> 
> JH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> 
> 
> > I figured I would receive an answer like this.  Ya...I know the
> law...but
> > scratch everything else I said and answer just this question:
> >
> > Who is going to use them?!?!?!
> >
> > I see my competitor is not using them as well.
> >
> > Sully
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 15.org] On Behalf Of Don Castella
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > >
> > > In the United States, with very few exceptions, the National
> Electrical
> > > Code
> > > applies everywhere. It requires proper antenna grounding, as well as
> > > overvoltage and overcurrent protection for outside plant (OSP) cable
> > > systems. In addition, there are specific requirements for OSP Building
> > > Entrance Protection, including the installation and use of proper
> > > grounding
> > > and surge protection equipment. Most building codes require a
> UL-approved
> > > primary protector (UL 497) at the building cable entrance. Some states
> and
> > > localities may have more stringent requirements, but very few have
> less
> > > stringent ones. These codes are in place for two reasons, personal
> injury
> > > protection and property protection.
> > >
> > > Ask any experienced fireman about these topics. I'm quite sure you
> will
> > > hear
> > > some harrowing stories.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Austin H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > >
> > >
> > > > What it really becomes, is a question of absolute liability. Sure,
> you
> > > might
> > > > see lightning once every three years. Sure, the chances are one in a
> > > million
> > > > that one of your customers will take a hit. The only absolute, in
> said
> > > > situation, is that in the case of someones house burning down (etc
> etc
> > > etc),
> > > > you _will_ be held liable. Seventy-five dollars an install... or
> > > 75million
> > > > dollars in liability insurance. Brutal judgement call. =\
> > > >
> > > > In addition, lightning protection is not the only factor to
> consider,
> an
> > > > external system should always be grounded (in a lot of places it's
> the
> > > law).
> > > >
> > > > Now on the installers side, sometimes it is bloody impossible to
> reach
> a
> > > > ground within a reasonable distance from the contact point or
> antenna.
> > > You
> > > > need LOS, LOS is on the ne corner of the 22,000 square foot home,
> ground
> > > is
> > > > on the sw corner... crap. In some areas the laws in place would make
> > > this
> > > > install an impossibility. Some would say drive a copper ground rod
> 8ft
> > > into
> > > > the ground and tie into that (not recommended, mostly ineffctive).
> No
> > > super
> > > > effective way to do that. Bummer. I feel your pain. =\
> > > >
> > > > Austin
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wirefree
> Network
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:23 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a question for y'all.
> > > >
> > > > I can wait to get a hold of a few of these outdoor PoE units for my
> > > aPPo's.
> > > > They are on BIGO METAL TOWERS, which are prone to lightning strikes
> (if
> > > we
> > > > had any) and when hit take out all clients (not just one).
> > > >
> > > > However, I am in NO hurry to get them in place on my customer
> installs.
> > > >
> > > > I know...I know...plenty of you will be saying, "what if it takes a
> > > > lightning hit and burns the house down".
> > > >
> > > > But truthfully...how many of you are really going to install them??
> > > >
> > > > It is hard enough to find a suitable location for an antenna....then
> run
> > > the
> > > > cable all the way around the house to the room where the PC's are.
> > > Now...I
> > > > am supposed to run the cable to the location where their earth
> ground
> > > is,
> > > > then run more cable from there all the way to the computer room.
> That
> > > will
> > > > easily double the amount of cable run per install.
> > > >
> > > > And don't even say you are going to pound in your own ground
> > > stake...cause
> > > > you wont!  I will at my towers...but not in a client's yard with
> water
> > > > lines, gas lines, sewer lines, etc.  NO WAY!  Not to mention the
> time
> > > > involved.
> > > >
> > > > Recap: to use an outdoor PoE it will extend my average install time
> from
> > > 2
> > > > hours to 3 hours (not including putting in my own ground
> > > stake)...driving
> > > > the cost per install up by $50-75 per install.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know...I just don't think it is worth it.  But then
> again...I
> > > live
> > > > in an area where I have only seen lightning (way up in the clouds)
> once
> > > in
> > > > the 1.5 years I have been here.
> > > >
> > > > Sully
> > >
> > >
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