John is this you in this picture? http://www.vircom.net/pictures/res-install/res-install_6.htm George
John Hokenson wrote:
On the indoor units, see below: http://www.vircom.net/pictures/res-install/res-install.htm
Out door units, we use a Motorola Canopy entrance protector where the cat5 enters the building, and use the ground stud on that to attach to the antenna ground, and from there to the building ground.
JH
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How were you doing that with sB products in the past?
Sully
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 15.org] On Behalf Of John Hokenson Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
Every install we do is done to NEC standards.
JH ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
I figured I would receive an answer like this. Ya...I know the
law...but
scratch everything else I said and answer just this question:
Who is going to use them?!?!?!
I see my competitor is not using them as well.
Sully
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15.org] On Behalf Of Don Castella Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
In the United States, with very few exceptions, the National
Electrical
Code applies everywhere. It requires proper antenna grounding, as well as overvoltage and overcurrent protection for outside plant (OSP) cable systems. In addition, there are specific requirements for OSP
Building
Entrance Protection, including the installation and use of proper grounding and surge protection equipment. Most building codes require a
UL-approved
primary protector (UL 497) at the building cable entrance. Some
states
and
localities may have more stringent requirements, but very few have
less
stringent ones. These codes are in place for two reasons, personal
injury
protection and property protection.
Ask any experienced fireman about these topics. I'm quite sure you
will
hear some harrowing stories.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
What it really becomes, is a question of absolute liability. Sure,
you
might
see lightning once every three years. Sure, the chances are one in
a
million
that one of your customers will take a hit. The only absolute, in
said
situation, is that in the case of someones house burning down (etc
etc
etc),
you _will_ be held liable. Seventy-five dollars an install... or
75million
dollars in liability insurance. Brutal judgement call. =\
In addition, lightning protection is not the only factor to
consider, an
external system should always be grounded (in a lot of places it's
the
law).
Now on the installers side, sometimes it is bloody impossible to
reach a
ground within a reasonable distance from the contact point or
antenna.
You
need LOS, LOS is on the ne corner of the 22,000 square foot home,
ground
is
on the sw corner... crap. In some areas the laws in place would
make
this
install an impossibility. Some would say drive a copper ground rod
8ft
into
the ground and tie into that (not recommended, mostly ineffctive).
No
super
effective way to do that. Bummer. I feel your pain. =\
Austin
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [smartBridges] Outdoor PoE Poll
I have a question for y'all.
I can wait to get a hold of a few of these outdoor PoE units for
my
aPPo's.
They are on BIGO METAL TOWERS, which are prone to lightning
strikes
(if
we
had any) and when hit take out all clients (not just one).
However, I am in NO hurry to get them in place on my customer
installs.
I know...I know...plenty of you will be saying, "what if it takes
a
lightning hit and burns the house down".
But truthfully...how many of you are really going to install
them??
It is hard enough to find a suitable location for an
antenna....then
run
the
cable all the way around the house to the room where the PC's are.
Now...I
am supposed to run the cable to the location where their earth
ground
is,
then run more cable from there all the way to the computer room.
That
will
easily double the amount of cable run per install.
And don't even say you are going to pound in your own ground
stake...cause
you wont! I will at my towers...but not in a client's yard with
water
lines, gas lines, sewer lines, etc. NO WAY! Not to mention the
time
involved.
Recap: to use an outdoor PoE it will extend my average install
time
from
2
hours to 3 hours (not including putting in my own ground
stake)...driving
the cost per install up by $50-75 per install.
I don't know...I just don't think it is worth it. But then
again...I
live
in an area where I have only seen lightning (way up in the clouds)
once
in
the 1.5 years I have been here.
Sully
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