David Bustos writes:
> > The propose is that first we boot up with standalone. and then when NWAM 
> > connectes to some network, it switches to a networked profile.
> 
> What if /usr is an NFS mount?  That's one of the reasons we plumb the
> network so early today.

I'm not arguing at all that we shouldn't attempt to plumb up network
interfaces as soon as we safely can do so.

I'm arguing that (a) there's no way to know whether we really have
_sufficient_ external connectivity to allow any particular application
to run correctly and (b) since we don't and can't know this, it
doesn't make sense to have an SMF milestone that somehow represents
this state.

Would it be harmful to allow NFS to attempt to mount /usr after IP
filters and IPsec are configured, but before we know that the network
is usable?  If so, then we're already in that "harmful" state, because
there's just no way for the system to know a priori whether any packet
sent out will actually be met with a useful reply coming back.

You can't know until you try.  That's true when any or all of the
interfaces are up, so it seems particularly pointless to me to
optimize for the case where all physical interfaces are down.

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