actually, I agree with you..LOL
 
Most men are ballsy enough to say from the get go they don't want kids.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Greg
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly

Actually, and the guys will have to either back me up on this or disagree.
lol But I think a man that hated kids that bad would come more never dating
the woman to begin with, than hiding it till after they got them. Call it
sexist if you want to. lol I agree men and women both do stupid things, but
this doesn't hit me as one alot of guys would do.....most guys I ever knew
that didn't like kids, wouldn't date women with kids.


Notice I said "alot" of guys....might be a few, but not one I see alot of
men doing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Sandbox Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly


> I know you weren't putting it on all women, I was just saying men can be
> just as bad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:58 AM
> To: The Sandbox Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly
>
>
> I didn't put it on all women, I was talking about the woman in the article
> and why any man would be that desperate.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Sandbox Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly
>
>
> > But lets not put it all on women. Their are quite a few men like that
out
> > there too that marry single mothers
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:02 AM
> > To: The Sandbox Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly
> >
> >
> > Can you imagine a man being so desperate for a woman, that he would
> inflict
> > that on his children? I wouldn't let a woman like that within a 100
miles
> of
> > my house, shudder at the thought of the living horror that you know
those
> > kids are bound to live with.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Harder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "The Sandbox Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly
> >
> >
> >
> > The unfortunate thing is that, for men in their 30's and 40's who are
> > single dads, women like this make up a majority of the available dating
> > pool.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 04:17 AM, Laurie wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you....you said what I was thinking.
> > >
> > >
> > > Laurie
> > > --- Tim Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Agreed.... that was *real* venom.... not a funny
> > >> tongue and cheek
> > >> article.
> > >> Women like this should be rounded up and taken to a
> > >> remote island
> > >> and left for dead.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 12:39 AM, Greg
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I get the point, but God I feel sorry for her
> > >> stepkids.....this woman
> > >>> seems to hate kids. This paragraph I found very
> > >> enlightening "
> > >>>
> > >>> If your little animal is so wild that he can't sit
> > >> quietly in his seat
> > >>> while in a restaurant, then you need to leave him
> > >> at home. My husband
> > >>> has two kids that are too wild to sit and eat for
> > >> an hour straight, so
> > >>> we don't take them with us when we go out to eat.
> > >> It really is a very
> > >>> simple concept. "
> > >>>
> > >>> Notice she didn't say her kids, or her
> > >> stepchildren, but "her husbands
> > >>> kids".......I've been a stepkid, and God I feel
> > >> for her stepkids. They
> > >>> have the wicked witch for a stepmother...
> > >>>
> > >>> And before someone says I missed the point, notice
> > >> my first
> > >>> sentance......I got the point. But this just
> > >> dripped hatred for
> > >>> kids......
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: Charles
> > >>> To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:24 PM
> > >>> Subject: [Sndbox] Your Children Are Ugly
> > >>>
> > >>> Your Children Are Ugly
> > >>>
> > >>> I work in a 'family' restaurant. Apparently, since
> > >> we have a multitude
> > >>> of high chairs, people assume that our nice, sit
> > >> down restaurant
> > >>> doubles as a play place McDonald's. Very often, I
> > >> can be heard musing
> > >>> to myself, "Why isn't anyone beating that kid?"
> > >>>
> > >>> Did I mention that we're a SIT DOWN restaurant?
> > >> With carpet on the
> > >>> floor and trendy alcoholic beverages that cost
> > >> over $7? You would
> > >>> think that our customers would come in and realize
> > >> that this is not an
> > >>> appropriate place to let your spawn crawl around
> > >> on the floor under
> > >>> the booths grinding macaroni and cheese into the
> > >> carpet and howling.
> > >>> You would think that the baby factories that come
> > >> in would worry about
> > >>> their toddlers playing tag in isles where servers
> > >> are carrying heavy,
> > >>> steaming hot plates.
> > >>>
> > >>> They don't. And furthermore, if one of those hot
> > >> plates were to fall
> > >>> and bash in the brains of their precious little
> > >> spawn, they would sue
> > >>> us despite the fact that we are a restaurant, not
> > >> a daycare.
> > >>>
> > >>> One night, I was waiting on a table with 2 parents
> > >> and 2 children who
> > >>> were actually sitting in their seats. I was
> > >> considering myself awfully
> > >>> lucky until a 2-year-old from another table
> > >> toddled over to my table,
> > >>> snatched some chocolate milk from one of the semi
> > >> well behaved kids,
> > >>> and then proceeded to lurch on back to his
> > >> parents.
> > >>>
> > >>> The parents didn't even notice.
> > >>>
> > >>> Obviously perturbed, I walked over to them and
> > >> said in a sickly sweet
> > >>> voice, "While you were busy with your
> > >> conversation, your child just
> > >>> stole chocolate milk off the table of one of my
> > >> customers."
> > >>>
> > >>> The woman doubled over laughing, "Oh my goodness!
> > >> Isn't that funny?
> > >>>
> > >>> No, it's not funny. It's not cute. It's incredibly
> > >> rude and
> > >>> disrespectful. Furthermore, it could have been
> > >> completely prevented
> > >>> had you been watching your child like you were
> > >> supposed too. I looked
> > >>> pointedly over to my table hoping that she would
> > >> notice that my
> > >>> customers were not in the least amused. This woman
> > >> STILL didn't get
> > >>> it. I wanted to dip her head into a bowl of
> > >> battery acid.
> > >>>
> > >>> This big group of Spanish people came into our
> > >> restaurant another
> > >>> night with about 8 little animals. Oblivious, they
> > >> got drunk while
> > >>> their kids sprinted though the restaurant, jumped
> > >> onto random booths,
> > >>> and even ran into the kitchen and came VERY close
> > >> to dipping their
> > >>> pudgy little fingers into the fryer. Repeatedly,
> > >> my manager intervened
> > >>> and told the kids that they MUST stay in their
> > >> seats. No dice. I spent
> > >>> the night wondering how I could push one over and
> > >> hurt them badly
> > >>> while making it look like an accident. By the time
> > >> the little monsters
> > >>> had finally left the restaurant, the other paying
> > >> customers were so
> > >>> annoyed, that my manager had to buy them ALL free
> > >> dessert to make them
> > >>> happy again.
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess the point I'm trying to make is: If your
> > >> little animal is so
> > >>> wild that he can't sit quietly in his seat while
> > >> in a restaurant, then
> > >>> you need to leave him at home. My husband has two
> > >> kids that are too
> > >>> wild to sit and eat for an hour straight, so we
> > >> don't take them with
> > >>> us when we go out to eat. It really is a very
> > >> simple concept.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't find your kids or their behavior
> > >> particularly cute. In fact, I
> > >>> think your kids are hideously ugly. Your children
> > >> are whining, crying,
> > >>> rude, nasty, deformed looking little brats that
> > >> smell like shit and
> > >>> are in serious need of a good, sound beating. I
> > >> would brutally murder
> > >>> your children and tack their dried skins on my
> > >> wall as a trophy if I
> > >>> could get away with it. Trust me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you really want someone like me bringing your
> > >> kids chocolate milk?
> > >>> No?
> > >>>
> > >>> Then leave them at home.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Charles Mims
> > >>> http://www.the-sandbox.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> <image.tiff>
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