Charles, I agree and I can see yours and Angela's point in this.
 
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

Well I guess I can just understand that things are accidental.  People used to understand that.  Now someone has to be "at fault".  Well sometimes things are just an accident and blame isn't the issue.  My thought is the driver of the car should have been tickled pink he didn't kill the kid, because if he had accidental or not he would have lived with that memory the rest of his life.
 
Charles Mims
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:09 AM
To: The Sandbox Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

Now wait a minute, you would say that if the kid were 19? Just because it was accidental? What percentage of accidents are on purpose? lol I dare say not many, should they not give tickets then to all of those accidents because they weren't on purpose? I for one, don't see it happening.
 
I know some of what you were saying, but that first part...I don't see. Someone might accidentally hit my car, but bubba they better get a ticket or I'm not going to be a happy camper. lol
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

Depends Angela.  If the kid (or the 19 y/o) was jumping the hill and it was accidental then yes I'd be saying the same thing.  It's not like this kid got it in his head, hey I'm going to go see if I can score a car this afternoon.  There are things that are just accidents.  This, IMHO, was one of those things.  It was an accident.  Accidents happen.  Could he have gotten hurt?  Yes, sure.  We could have gotten hurt at camp when we set people's underwear on fire with a torch made from a match and a can of off too. 
 
We've gotten to the point where we want to legislate every aspect of life.  Wear a helmet on your bike kid, don't jump a sand hill kid, no swimming in the pond by the quarry kid it might be dangerous.  Sometimes life is a little dangerous.  And sometimes accidents happen.
 
It's a good thing I'm not a kid today, because there is no way in the world I'd wear a helmet to ride a freaking bicycle.  And I'd probably jump a few sand hills.  God knows I jumped over my share of picnic tables on one.  I've even hit a car or two on accident.  No one made a federal crime out of it.  If punishment was deserved my family took care of it.  There was no need to bring the cops into it.
 
That's partly what is wrong with society these days.  Everyone wants to either call the cops or sue over things that really are unimportant.
 
Charles Mims
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:51 PM
To: The Sandbox Discussion List
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

But throwing a rock through someones window didn't put your life in danger (except for maybe by your grandfather). When you are out on the street, riding a bike, if you don't use common sense you can be killed. I agree maybe for the first offense try talking it out with the parents, but if that doesn't work, then fine him. If talking to him doesn't teach him the lesson, maybe having to pay a fine will. But I do think this teaches kids at an early age that their parents can't always get them out of a situation they have gotten themselves into. Would you all be bitching if it was a 19 y/o that was riding his bike and hit a car?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sandbox Mail List Administration
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:46 PM
To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

Sure, but what ever happened to parents talking out a problem like this?  When I was about 10 or so I threw a rock through a window.  That was illegal.  Destruction of private property you know.  I suppose they could have called the cops you know...I was even technically trespassing.  You know how it was handled?  My grandfather went to the people's window I broke and made a deal.  He would pay to fix the window and handle my punishment.  You know what?  It worked.  There is absolutely no reason that same kind of common sense couldn't have worked in the issue being discussed.
 
Charles Mims
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

Last I checked, kid or adult not obeying the rules of the road was illegal too. If they are going to be on their bikes in the road they have to obey laws just like anyone else regardless of age.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike

In a message dated 11/5/2003 6:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What I don't understand is why no one feels that a kid on a bike has to obey rules of the road and rights of way the same as anyone else on the road. I know....I'll just go out in my car and start hitting people.


maybe some people feel that kids are just kids and they can make mistakes.  the kid wasnt out in the road trying to run people off the street, he was playing with friends. Last time i checked that wasnt a major crime   however hitting pedestrians  is  :))


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