I give
up. Jumping sand hills isn't the problem. Jumping sand hills in a freaking road
is the problem. I guess telling a kid not to goof off on a bike in the street is
the wrong thing to do. Just around the house, my kids don't wear a helmet b/c of
the kind of street we live on, but as soon as they get out on the main road with
other cars, their helmet is on or they don't ride. I've seen what can happen
when your head hits pavement w/o a helmet, and I've seen what helmets can do to
save your skull from cracking open. I have also seen what playing around on a
bike in the street can do. Let's not forget when we were kids, there weren't as
many cars on the road as there are now and most of them probably weren't driving
as fast as people do now. Now I'm sorry that my opinion on this won't waver. I
helped a friend that owned a bike shop teach bike safety classes to young kids
and most of them didn't realize that they had to obey the rules of the road when
they are on their bike. They just assumed b/c it wasn't a car that they could do
whatever they wanted, which is the wrong opinion to have. At some point in time
they have to learn responsibility for their actions and sometimes just having
the parent take care of the problem won't work.
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bikeDepends Angela. If the kid (or the 19 y/o) was jumping the hill and it was accidental then yes I'd be saying the same thing. It's not like this kid got it in his head, hey I'm going to go see if I can score a car this afternoon. There are things that are just accidents. This, IMHO, was one of those things. It was an accident. Accidents happen. Could he have gotten hurt? Yes, sure. We could have gotten hurt at camp when we set people's underwear on fire with a torch made from a match and a can of off too.We've gotten to the point where we want to legislate every aspect of life. Wear a helmet on your bike kid, don't jump a sand hill kid, no swimming in the pond by the quarry kid it might be dangerous. Sometimes life is a little dangerous. And sometimes accidents happen.It's a good thing I'm not a kid today, because there is no way in the world I'd wear a helmet to ride a freaking bicycle. And I'd probably jump a few sand hills. God knows I jumped over my share of picnic tables on one. I've even hit a car or two on accident. No one made a federal crime out of it. If punishment was deserved my family took care of it. There was no need to bring the cops into it.That's partly what is wrong with society these days. Everyone wants to either call the cops or sue over things that really are unimportant.Charles Mims
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bikeBut throwing a rock through someones window didn't put your life in danger (except for maybe by your grandfather). When you are out on the street, riding a bike, if you don't use common sense you can be killed. I agree maybe for the first offense try talking it out with the parents, but if that doesn't work, then fine him. If talking to him doesn't teach him the lesson, maybe having to pay a fine will. But I do think this teaches kids at an early age that their parents can't always get them out of a situation they have gotten themselves into. Would you all be bitching if it was a 19 y/o that was riding his bike and hit a car?-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bikeSure, but what ever happened to parents talking out a problem like this? When I was about 10 or so I threw a rock through a window. That was illegal. Destruction of private property you know. I suppose they could have called the cops you know...I was even technically trespassing. You know how it was handled? My grandfather went to the people's window I broke and made a deal. He would pay to fix the window and handle my punishment. You know what? It worked. There is absolutely no reason that same kind of common sense couldn't have worked in the issue being discussed.Charles Mims
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bikeLast I checked, kid or adult not obeying the rules of the road was illegal too. If they are going to be on their bikes in the road they have to obey laws just like anyone else regardless of age.-----Original Message-----In a message dated 11/5/2003 6:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Subject: Re: [Sndbox] FL. Boy fined on bike
What I don't understand is why no one feels that a kid on a bike has to obey rules of the road and rights of way the same as anyone else on the road. I know....I'll just go out in my car and start hitting people.
maybe some people feel that kids are just kids and they can make mistakes. the kid wasnt out in the road trying to run people off the street, he was playing with friends. Last time i checked that wasnt a major crime however hitting pedestrians is :))
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