Chuck,

The issue is not that Sniffer is lapsing, but that the spammers are getting much better at what they do. When a spammer uses Geocities links, hijacks real accounts on major providers to send spam through, and changes their techniques every few hours, it makes it difficult for Sniffer to proactively block them, and the delay between rulebase updates means a delay in catching things that have been tagged. These drug spams have also rendered tools like URIBL useless, and most here can only rely on blacklists, but the volume is high enough, and the IP's are clean enough that some still get through. Sniffer mostly relies on pseudo-URIBL functionality, but it can detect such things given that rules have been written.

The spammers are definitely exploiting many weaknesses, and it's a very difficult issue. Personally I was only able to catch these by programming a whole application than parses messages and analyzes patterns, and I still have to add new patterns for this stuff as it morphs. Pete would call what I do a neural-net, or process that works on multiple levels to create a pattern. Sniffer wasn't designed to operate like this, and that worked great for the most part until spam blockers raised the bar high enough that the spammers have improved their techniques. I don't expect for it to get any better, in fact I expect that spammers will start hacking AUTH to send through legitimate servers and exploiting things like free hosting sites in much greater numbers than they are now. When Sniffer goes real-time, it will allow it to keep up with the spammers, but for the moment, some of these guys are leading the way.

Matt



Chuck Schick wrote:

Pete:

Thanks.  I am just frustrated by the continued spam growth.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Chuck Schick
Subject: Re: [sniffer] Large amounts of spam still getting through


On Friday, October 14, 2005, 10:59:05 AM, Chuck wrote:

CS> We are seeing a lot of the drug spam getting through. Anyway that CS> sniffer could start catching these. And yes I am forwarding them CS> all.

There are a number of new campaigns launched today with some heavy bandwidth
behind them. We have rules in place for most (if not all) of the new stuff,
however there is a delay before these rules might get to you - during that
window some of these will get through.

Over the past few months we have increased the rate at which we send out
updates - nearly cutting the time in half. Updates are now sent every 180
minutes or so. We are also working on the next version which will allow for
nearly instantaneous updates.

In the mean time we will continue to work on speeding things up as much as
we can.

Hope this helps,

_M



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