5 minutes would hardily be noticed. Discussions I was having with others
involved delays of an hour or two.

I do not see how "greylisting" a message for 5 minutes would help except
when fighting harvesting or dictionary type spam attacks.

John T
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of William Van Hefner
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:22 AM
> To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
> Subject: RE: [sniffer] Large amounts of spam still getting through
> 
> John,
> 
> I have no clue what the "legal implications" would be, as long as both my
> customers know that I'm using it and the sender is notified appropriately
> via SMTP. I use greylisting via IMGate/Postfix and it works like a charm.
It
> takes a good couple of weeks to build up decent whitelist (both manual
> whitelisting and automated whitelisting are recommended), but after that
it
> is pretty much smooth sailing. I've yet to have a single complaint from my
> users over greylisting, other than the fact that it delayed their e-mails
by
> around 5 minutes for the first couple of weeks. If I had planned it
better,
> even those delays would largely not have occurred.
> 
> I know of no way to implement greylisting on a Windows box. See
> greylisting.org for more info.
> 
> 
> William Van Hefner
> Network Administrator
> 
> Vantek Communications, Inc.
> 555 H Street, Ste. C
> Eureka, CA 95501
> 707.476.0833 ph
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists)
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:55 PM
> > To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
> > Subject: RE: [sniffer] Large amounts of spam still getting through
> >
> >
> > There has been a good amount of discussion about temporarily
> > "grey listing" an e-mail message and there are many questions
> > surrounding it, one of which is legal.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Mike Nice
> > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:43 PM
> > > To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
> > > Subject: Re: [sniffer] Large amounts of spam still getting through
> > >
> > > > getting much better at what they do.  When a spammer uses
> > Geocities
> > links,
> > > > hijacks real accounts on major providers to send spam through, and
> > changes
> > > > their techniques every few hours, it makes it difficult
> > for Sniffer
> > > > to proactively block them, and the delay between rulebase updates
> > > > means a delay in catching things that have been tagged.
> > >
> > >   This brings to mind a technique with optional adaptive delay -
> > > enabled
> > by
> > > the user. Each mail is assigned a 'triplicate': (To_Email,
> > From_Email,
> > > and domain_of_sending_server).  Previously unknown triplicates are
> > > held for a period of time before being examined for spam.
> > The delay
> > > is long enough that SpamCop, Sniffer, and InvURIBL mailtraps see
> > > copies of the spam and update the blacklists.
> > >
> > >    This would be hard to do with the stock IMail, but
> > possibly could
> > > be
> > done
> > > by Declude with the V3 architecture and a database.
> > >
> > >    It still doesn't provide a good answer to the problem of
> > spammers
> > > hijacking a computer and sending spam through legitimate servers.
> > >
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