Hey guys.... I have , 
a spare Fisher Plus V-Ultra fuselage and V tail. It is all rigged up with the 
wing harness and pushrods.... All is needed is to make a wing for it (wing is 
RG15)

I have an F3B and F3F fuselage and V tail...... It's a steal....

$175.00 plus s&h
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, May 6, 2006 7:27 am
Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B

> 
> 
> Harry DeBoer wrote:
> > 
> 
> > Now that most of the smoke has cleared, where can we find more 
> out about 
> > F3B;
> 
> > 3. how do you get started?
> Just like anything else in the hobby. It helps to have some others 
> around to assist you.  And it helps even more to have a group that 
> flies 
> together. This lets you practice some of the man on man aspects, 
> plus a 
> little friendly competition in practice on who is launching 
> highest, 
> going fastest, etc never hurt anyone in improving thier model setup.
> 
> And of course, RCSE doesn't hurt. Obviously there were quite a few 
> responses. Mostly from guys who really love to fly F3b. There 
> really is 
> no way to explain what it is like to fly distance and speed to 
> someone 
> who has only flown TD.  You can be descriptive and say what takes 
> place, 
> but until you've flown some good distance groups and done it is 
> some 
> good air, you just don't know...
> 
> > 4. what airplanes qualify?
> Almost anything qualifies. Lots of TD models are out there with MH-
> 32's, 
> RG15's, etc. They are good enough to get the feel of the tasks and 
> to 
> learn a lot about flying.  Like models will go up without 
> circling.... 
> You can even fly a Supra in F3b.  And if you go to ancient 
> history... 
> you can use a woody.
> 
> 
> > 5. about how much dose it cost to compete?
> Like anything, as much as you want.  The biggest cost is the 
> practice 
> time you need to improve your flying skills.  You can buy a good 
> model, 
> but it doesn't replace the practice required to learn to fly it well.
> 
> 
> > 6. on average how many people do you need to run a contest?
> Most F3b contests get run be the people flying them.   If you read 
> the 
> rules, it looks like a billion officials. But just like our AMA TD 
> contests, you don't need most of them.  The only big overhead help 
> item 
> is getting guys out to base B for the distance flights. Your own 
> helpers 
> at base A can usually keep track of the flight times and count laps.
> 
> There are a few F3b buzzer systems in various places around the 
> US. Some 
> of them even take care of all the timekeeping and lap counting. 
> The only 
> thing "official" needed is someone at base A and base B to push 
> the 
> appropriate buttons.
> 
> And yes, you can even fly the F3b tasks in a contest all by 
> yourself. I 
> wouldn't recommend it, but it has been done.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What you didn't ask is what can you learn from flying F3b.  Of 
> course, 
> we all abuse Jeff Steifel, about his flying.   But his overall 
> flying 
> has gotten better since he has been flying F3b.
> 
> If you've never flown on monofilament and a F3b winch, you 
> probably have 
> a lot to learn about setting up your model for launch. I have 
> several 
> F3b winches. Great to launch my Bubble Dancer as well as my F3b 
> models. 
> Got rid of my FLS decades ago.
> 
> 
> I hope you get a chance to meet up with Dave or someone else in 
> your 
> area to give flying off some F3b winches a try.  And you still 
> have time 
> to change your NATS entry from XC to F3b!
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