It just occurred to me that a good explanation of why some want a
"New" achievement program may be the same reason that involvement by
new blood is diminishing. Nobody has any time to enjoy
themselves. The 40 hour work week is gone and if you get more than 2
weeks vacation consider yourself lucky.
Perhaps an achievement program that rewards point for posting to RCSE. :-)
Oh yea, I'm at work. This message paid for by my employer. :-)
Steve
Soaring Exchange Level V
LSF Level IV
At 10:35 AM 9/7/2006, James V. Bacus wrote:
Steve makes some really good points here.
We were already traveling on weekends 100's of miles just to go fly
with others, the LSF tasks didn't start us off on that.
We didn't get our contest task points at home because we have a big
club, we had to go on the road for those points because the pilots
within our club are so strong and there are a layer of guys on top
that are very difficult to beat.
All hobbies can be expensive, but perhaps the largest expense in
this day and age is the time to spend with them.
Well written Steve.
At 09:12 AM 9/7/2006, S Meyer wrote:
I started traveling to Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky to attend
contests. First it was because that was where the HL contests were
at. Now mainly TD contests. It was not just for the LSF points, I
met some great guys along the way, learned a lot from all the
different people, and had a lot of fun as well. I could move
closer to theses areas but I choose to live where I am.
The current LSF system is designed for the pilot who wants interact
with other pilots, teach and learn at the same time.
As far as getting a Level V win from a SOAR club contest. Fat
chance, I have resided that I will have to attend smaller contests
in far places. Away from guys like, Rich Burnoski, Karl Miller,
Jim McCarthy, Tom Kallevang, Jim Bacus, and more. And now the
upcoming novice of the group Pat Crosby, watch out he's a good stick.
So be careful what you wish for.
To attain Level 5 requires dedication, commitment, and yes,
money. There is no hobby out there if you want to be good you have
to spend money. From Gardening to Cycling, they all have an
expensive side to them. And they all take what few of us have... time.
Steve Meyer
LSF IV
At 08:02 AM 9/7/2006, Pat McCleave wrote:
Steven,
Once again you are missing the point, it is not so much about
changing the current system as it is about adding a separate
system to the fold for those pilots who do not choose or do not
have the means to travel to the big contests in order to complete
the list of tasks. Funny thing is, almost all of those that are
so apposed to any change just happen to be fortunate enough to be
involved with clubs that have regular monthly contests 20 or more
pilots. Maybe if the shoe were on the other foot and you guys had
to travel hundreds of miles and spend hundreds of dollars
everytime you wanted to attend a contest with 20 or more people,
you might see it another way. If I were a new guy just starting
out and did not already know several of the people on here, I
would get the feeling that most of you guys were a pretty elitist
group and could care less about new pilots joining the group. I
know this is not the case, because like I said, I know most of you
know differently but a new guy just signing up on the list would
not know that. Perception plays a very big role in things. We
really need to keep that in mind.
See Ya,
Pat
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