Easy there girls. This whole thread is based on opinions, ideas, individule experiences etc, etc.
Although this current thread has become rather cumbersome due to it's length, it has sometimes been entertaining as well as informative. It has brought back some memories that go back, for me, to the late sixties and that has some added value. Everyone has a right to their opinions and that includes you, me, JT and even Gordysoar. Lets not get tense, let's just enjoy each others company via RCSE. I'm going to back to the drawing board and finish designing an electric indoor stretched Citabria for 3D practice at our local soccer dome. Are we all calmed down now ? Regards, Dave Corven. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jay Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Classic... rather than admit you are wrong or defend your position you > resort to pettiness... > > On Dec 2, 2007 4:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So many opinions, so little of value... > > > > -------------- Original message from Michael Whitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > -------------- > > > > > > > I disagree with your analysis. We're not flying fruit so cost per > > > ounce is irrelevant. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2007, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I have to disagree with Buzz regarding DLG being the best value. I > > > > agree that DLG has made HL more accessible to all pilots due it the > > > > ergonomics of launching them. But value, for that lets > > > > take a step back and look at it from a distance. > > > > > > > > When evaluated analytically, DLG is absolutely the worst value in > > > > soaring today. Lets take the recent example of the $1000 Vandal > > > > (all up ready to fly) that was snapped up off of RCSE recently. For > > > > simplicity assume th at the plane weighs 10 oz all up. A simple > > > > > > calculation yields $100/oz. > > > > > > > > Now lets take a Supra at $2000 (all up: plane plus radio gear) at 65 > > > > oz. Same simple calculation yields $31/oz. > > > > > > > > OK, next up on the list is an SBXC at $2500 (all up, plane plus > > > > radio plus vario) at 176 oz. > > > > Crank, crank, the calculator tells me $14.25/oz. > > > > > > > > Getting the drift here? Now lets take Sagitta 900 at $350 (kit plus > > > > gear) weighing 40 oz. Push the little beads on the abacus and what > > > > comes out: $8.75/oz. > > > > > > > > Disclaimer- this doesn't assign any value for building, enjoying, > > > > etc. Then again, nobody really makes money out of the hobby, we all > > > > do it for fun, no? > > > > > > > > So, what is really more cost effective, soaring gold (DLG), or > > > > history (Sagitta)? > > > > > > > > On a kind of related topic, I've been having a great laugh about all > > > > this benchmark garbage. What a bunch of subjective tripe. All I > > > > really see is reminiscing about what gets an individual's attention > > > > and represents progress to them. > > > > > > > > I've been in the technology business for 40 years, and if I've > > > > learned anything, true paradigms define themselves without any > > > > help. By their very nature, the direction that technology goes > > > > after the paradigm emerges will change because of the paradigm. > > > > > > > > As my buddy Bubba would say, "Y'all have a ball getting yer undies > > > > twisted with this one". > > > > > > > > Jim Thomas > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > > > > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscr ibe > > > > messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > > > > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are > > > > generally NOT in text format > > > >
--- Begin Message --- Classic... rather than admit you are wrong or defend your position you resort to pettiness...On Dec 2, 2007 4:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:So many opinions, so little of value...
-------------- Original message from Michael Whitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: --------------> > simplicity assume th at the plane weighs 10 oz all up. A simple
> I disagree with your analysis. We're not flying fruit so cost per
> ounce is irrelevant.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2007, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have to disagree with Buzz regarding DLG being the best value. I
> > agree that DLG has made HL more accessible to all pilots due it the
> > ergonomics of launching them. But value, for that lets
> > take a step back and look at it from a distance.
> >
> > When evaluated analytically, DLG is absolutely the worst value in
> > soaring today. Lets take the recent example of the $1000 Vandal
> > (all up ready to fly) that was snapped up off of RCSE recently. For
> > calculation yields $100/oz.
> >
> > Now lets take a Supra at $2000 (all up: plane plus radio gear) at 65
> > oz. Same simple calculation yields $31/oz.
> >
> > OK, next up on the list is an SBXC at $2500 (all up, plane plus
> > radio plus vario) at 176 oz.
> > Crank, crank, the calculator tells me $14.25/oz.
> >
> > Getting the drift here? Now lets take Sagitta 900 at $350 (kit plus
> > gear) weighing 40 oz. Push the little beads on the abacus and what
> > comes out: $8.75/oz.
> >
> > Disclaimer- this doesn't assign any value for building, enjoying,
> > etc. Then again, nobody really makes money out of the hobby, we all
> > do it for fun, no?
> >
> > So, what is really more cost effective, soaring gold (DLG), or
> > history (Sagitta)?
> >
> > On a kind of related topic, I've been having a great laugh about all
> > this benchmark garbage. What a bunch of subjective tripe. All I
> > really see is reminiscing about what gets an individual's attention
> > and represents progress to them.
> >
> > I've been in the technology business for 40 years, and if I've
> > learned anything, true paradigms define themselves without any
> > help. By their very nature, the direction that technology goes
> > after the paradigm emerges will change because of the paradigm.
> >
> > As my buddy Bubba would say, "Y'all have a ball getting yer undies
> > twisted with this one".
> >
> > Jim Thomas
> > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send
> > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that subscribe and unsubscr ibe
> > messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
> > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are
> > generally NOT in text format
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