Phil I totally respect that you, Berry and others are scratch builders. You
are in the minority. You, and less than the number of fingers on my hands,
will be the builders at this contest. Wouldn't it be nice if we still had
builders not buyers? Well maybe not from you business prospective but think
of it from the view of the hobby/sport. Ray made a generous offer to have a
class that would be a wood wing builder class that was completely ignored. I
think that that is a real slap in the face for him and all the other wood
wing builder/flyer pilots that are supporters of the hobby. I guess they
don't really have that much buying power so it doesn't matter.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:44 PM
To: [email protected]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> it looks like ....... this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big
> Bucks, Buy
> & Fly) contest.

I'm sure there will be at least a few Big Buck, Build & Fly models as well
and some of those will be flown by Big Boys. Mine will be flown by a mere
mortal though.

Wow! This started out as a light hearted post but I just went back and read
the entire post I was responding to more closely.......I have the skill and
determination to build what I fly. I think this a great event and am very
greatful that the effort is being made to put it on. I'll be there with my
home built models. I'm not feeling the least bit left out or slighted. Why
do people assume that scratch builders aren't really scratch builders if
they don't use much wood anymore?

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> "no store bought" Are you kidding?  That is heresy!
>
> It's sad but it looks like (from the lack of anyone responding to your
> post
> in the last 24hr) this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big Bucks,
> Buy
> & Fly) contest. You have to  save your support money for the
> craftsman/builder events. It looks like no one values, or gives any
> consideration, to the people that have the skill and determination to
> build
> what they fly. Not a big enough market I guess.
>
> John

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