Now boys, don't get yourselves too up tight over what kind of sailplane a
guy should fly.
Leave that kind of stuff to the fools that want to argue about religions.

There is no mention in the rules banning certain types, so if woody
enthusiast wants to participate, I'm sure they will be treated equally.  If
there is a woody class as I proposed, I'm sure the attendance bell will ring
a little louder.

The Soaring Masters contest is a great idea, not new, we use to have a
Masters that jumped around the country, maybe the last one was at Toledo
about 1990 (?), I think JW won it. It  also had a no skeg rule.

Keep cool and Happy New Year

Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Lachowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Diniz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mark browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<soaring@airage.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR
Radio


> I'll be substituting the "Buy" with a "Build" on my entry and I will be
> flying a molded model.  If you carefully look at the top pilots and WC
> in all areas of modelling, I suspect you will find that many build thier
> own or are working closely with a mfg to help design and build the
> models they fly.
>
> I think they should outlaw laser cut parts and any other power tools
> from the woody contests. Nothing more than razor blades and sandpaper
> are allowed ;-)
>
>
> John wrote:
> > Ray,
> >
> > "no store bought" Are you kidding?  That is heresy!
> >
> > It's sad but it looks like (from the lack of anyone responding to your
post
> > in the last 24hr) this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big Bucks,
Buy
> > & Fly) contest. You have to  save your support money for the
> > craftsman/builder events. It looks like no one values, or gives any
> > consideration, to the people that have the skill and determination to
build
> > what they fly. Not a big enough market I guess.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:52 PM
> > To: John Diniz; mark browning
> > Cc: soaring@airage.com
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby
and JR
> > Radio
> >
> > John and LSF,
> >
> > You guys should be Knighted.  Get it on big time TV and include some
> > aerobatics footage to spark it up.  I truly hope this is a winner.
> >
> > I will be delighted to donate a $100.00, $75.00 and $50.00 for Cash
awards
> > to first thru third  place in a woody class.  Like the Southwest Classic
> > does it with 2m, RES and Grey Cup, not separate flight groups, just
separate
> > class scoring.
> >
> > Providing the woody qualification rules are:
> > Built up wood flying surfaces, with or without a glass fuse, no
restrictions
> > on spar construction, no molded d-tube, no foam, no store bought, AMA
> > unlimited class.
> >
> > Ray Hayes
> > http://www.skybench.com
> > Home of Wood Crafters
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Diniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "mark browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <soaring@airage.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:19 PM
> > Subject: RE: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby
and JR
> > Radio
> >
> > Just need to be an LSF member. Check out http://www.silentflight.org/ on
how
> > to do that. We're capping it to the 1st 150 entrants for the 1st year.
No
> > firm date on when registration will open, but it should be this spring
> > sometime. Once we get the website up there will be tons more info there.
> >
> > JD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mark browning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:14 PM
> > To: John Diniz
> > Subject: RE: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby
> > and JR Radio
> >
> > Holt shi!!!!!
> > how you Qualify???
> > see you in AZ????
> > MB
> >
> >
> >>From: "John Diniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <soaring@airage.com>
> >>Subject: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR
> >>Radio
> >>Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:00:59 -0600
> >>
> >>Well folks, time to block out your vacation days for Sept 21-24, 2006.
I'm
> >>pleased to announce the 1st annual LSF Soaring Masters to be held at the
> >>AMA site in Muncie, In. Please see the press release below. There will
be a
> >>website up in the coming weeks that will have more info on registration
and
> >>sponsorship opportunities. Cash payouts for the top five finishers and
> >>trophies through tenth as well as many product give-away opportunities
for
> >>the rest of the field.
> >>
> >>Stay tuned to RCSE for more updates!!!!
> >>Thanks,
> >>John
> >>
> >>Press Release
> >>US Soaring Masters.
> >>The goal for this event is to help stimulate the competition soaring
> >>segment into higher levels of awareness within the modeling community.
> >>Soaring has endured many years with no real push to grow the segment.
With
> >>a prestigious international event, that will draw out the best pilots
from
> >>not only the US but the world, could only help grow the great sport of
> >>competition soaring. IMAC has seen much growth, which is no doubt partly
> >>due to prestigious events like TOC, and the Don Lowe Masters. Scale has
> >>also seen great growth with events like Top Gun and the US Scale
masters.
> >>The Electric segment has seen growth with events like Neat and SEFF.
Giant
> >>scale has seen growth with events like Joe Nall, Dogs and the IMAA
rally's.
> >>Soaring needs it's own high profile event. An event that will be the one
to
> >>win, an event that brings the soaring segment in front of the average
> >>modeler, an event that gets people excited about soaring. This event is
not
> >>a fly in, it is a pure competition, with rules designed to choose the
best
> >>thermal pilot in the world. This event will aspire many to get involved
in
> >>soaring and aspire them to higher levels of soaring skills.
> >>Dates:
> >>September 21 - 24 2006. The competition days are Friday, Saturday and
> >>Sunday 8 - 5. Thursday is setup day.
> >>Location:
> >>AMA Headquarters, Muncie IN. This site will be ideal due to the ability
for
> >>360deg winch setup.
> >>LSF Involvement
> >>LSF has agreed to support this event is in the form of manpower and
> >>equipment. The LSF has agreed to run this event through utilization of
> >>their staff and equipment. Additional Horizon staff will also be
available
> >>to help.
> >>Entries:
> >>
> >>All attending pilots must be a registered member of the LSF.
> >>Entries will be capped to 150 due to available manpower and long
duration
> >>flight times.
> >>10 Additional non-LSF positions will be held and recommended for entry
by
> >>the event organization staff. Entry Fees will be $75.
> >>
> >>Competition rules:
> >>
> >>1. Normalized Man on Man event. Each round will be normalized to 1000
> >>pts. This normalization also includes landing points (ala FAI events). A
> >>perfect score will be a 12-minute flight, and a 100-point landing.
> >>
> >>2. Any model can be flown, provided it is a sailplane and meets the AMA
> >>weight limit and total surface area restrictions.
> >>
> >>3. 2 models per pilot will be allowed and can be alternated at any time
> >>throughout the event. If a 3rd model is required, that can be registered
on
> >>a as needed basis.
> >>
> >>4. No skegs or landing devices will be permitted.
> >>
> >>5. Every round flown will be a 12 minute duration.
> >>
> >>6. Each pilot will be allowed 2 line breaks for the entire event. No
line
> >>break re-flights will be allowed after the pilot has used up his 2
> >>launches.
> >>
> >>7. Flight time starts when the model is released from the winch line.
> >>
> >>8. No model can be launched until the start of working time. (Zero
flight
> >>score will result).
> >>
> >>9. If model lands outside the designated landing zone, no flight score
> >>will result.
> >>
> >>10. Landing tapes will be standard FAI tapes. The last 2 meters will be
> >>divided into 10cm spacing with additional 1-point increments up to the
> >>maximum landing score of 100.
> >>11. All winches will be supplied by the LSF and will be of equal
> >>performance.
> >>
> >>12. Ten to twelve (10 - 12, weather permitting) qualifying rounds will
be
> >>flown, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The top ten from qualifying rounds
will
> >>advance to the final Fly-off rounds.
> >>
> >>13. Each finalist will carry his total score over to the finals as a
> >>normalization of the qualifying rounds. If a pilot has the leading
amount
> >>of points after flying the qualifying rounds, he will carry a score of
> >>1000pts place going to the finals. Each pilot in the top 10 will then be
> >>normalized based on the winning total score from the qualifying rounds.
3
> >>additional finals rounds will be flown and the accumulation of the
> >>normalized qualifying score along with the additional finals scores will
be
> >>added up to determine the winner.
> >>
> >>14. 1st through to 5th place will receive cash prizes, and trophies will
> >>be awarded to the top 10 finalists.
> >>
> >>
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