John
We have very little to disagree about. I too think that the hobby would
benefit from having more scratch builders. At least half the fun for me and
many scratch builders is the building part of the hobby. That is why I and
many scratch builders spend hours online and elsewhere talking about scratch
building techniques.
I also have great respect for Ray Hayes and the woody contests that he
promotes. I only have a very slight knowledge of that aspect of the hobby
since that is not where my interests lie but I have enough knowledge to
recognize that he is doing a great service to the hobby by promoting that
aspect.
The woody class and the hard-core-all-out competition-no-holds-barred type
of contest are simply two very different things. Rays offer for having a
woody class contest at the soaring masters would be akin to someone else
suggesting a molded plane class at a woody contest. I'm guessing that kind
of offer would also fall on deaf ears. I think our only area of disagreement
is that I don't think the lack of a response to Ray's offer indicates any
lack of respect. It is simply indicative of the total split between the two
soaring disciplines. Each of the two disciplines has scratch builders.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phil I totally respect that you, Berry and others are scratch builders.
You
are in the minority. You, and less than the number of fingers on my hands,
will be the builders at this contest. Wouldn't it be nice if we still had
builders not buyers? Well maybe not from you business prospective but
think
of it from the view of the hobby/sport. Ray made a generous offer to have
a
class that would be a wood wing builder class that was completely ignored.
I
think that that is a real slap in the face for him and all the other wood
wing builder/flyer pilots that are supporters of the hobby. I guess they
don't really have that much buying power so it doesn't matter.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and
JR
Radio
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
it looks like ....... this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big
Bucks, Buy
& Fly) contest.
I'm sure there will be at least a few Big Buck, Build & Fly models as well
and some of those will be flown by Big Boys. Mine will be flown by a mere
mortal though.
Wow! This started out as a light hearted post but I just went back and
read
the entire post I was responding to more closely.......I have the skill
and
determination to build what I fly. I think this a great event and am very
greatful that the effort is being made to put it on. I'll be there with my
home built models. I'm not feeling the least bit left out or slighted. Why
do people assume that scratch builders aren't really scratch builders if
they don't use much wood anymore?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"no store bought" Are you kidding? That is heresy!
It's sad but it looks like (from the lack of anyone responding to your
post
in the last 24hr) this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big Bucks,
Buy
& Fly) contest. You have to save your support money for the
craftsman/builder events. It looks like no one values, or gives any
consideration, to the people that have the skill and determination to
build
what they fly. Not a big enough market I guess.
John
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