Mike Burgess wrote:

>Clone them (ssid & key), and then change the radio ch
>of 1 only. Laptop should seek the best signal. my .02
>worth
>  
>
leave them on the same channel and you'll get better results.

>--- Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Is there really such a thing as WiFi operating
>>"seamlessly"?  I assume that
>>would be like the operation of cellular service. 
>>Wireless computer
>>interface to the Internet can be accomplished by
>>"dial up" through the PSTN
>>Cellular and that would be seamless, but other than
>>that kind of service, if
>>you move from one WiFi hot spot to another, the OS
>>has to re-acquire
>>connection via the new hot spot.
>>
>>I have two WAP's and would like to configure so that
>>it would be seamless to
>>move between them, anyone know how?
>>
>>
>>Richard, NCT
>>N6GPP
>>
>>On 3/2/06, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Roaming between access points may result in
>>>      
>>>
>>applications stopping
>>    
>>
>>>termporarily or dropping permanently.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sankaran Somasundaram wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I have some basic question again. what are the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>problems that would arise
>>    
>>
>>>>with "seamless wi-fi"..One problem i know is
>>>>        
>>>>
>>interference because of the
>>    
>>
>>>>unregulated unlicensed region wi-fi operating
>>>>        
>>>>
>>in. what else could be the
>>    
>>
>>>>problems when a seamless wi-fi is promised?
>>>>
>>>>your help is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Sankar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 2/28/06, Sankaran Somasundaram
>>>>        
>>>>
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    
>>
>>>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Thanks a lot Kevin and Mr.Thompson.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    On 2/27/06, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>        
>>>>
>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>    
>>
>>>>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        kevincw01 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I don't beleive it's this simple.  One problem
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>is that the range for
>>    
>>
>>>>> 802.11g is actually less than 802.11b at the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>maximum throughput.
>>    
>>
>>>>        The primary reason for this is that at
>>>>        
>>>>
>>the maximum modulation
>>    
>>
>>>speed
>>>      
>>>
>>>>        (54Mbps .vs 11Mbps) a much higher Eb/No
>>>>        
>>>>
>>(SNR) is required for
>>    
>>
>>>>        11g than
>>>>        for 11b.
>>>>
>>>>        At (nearly) equivalent bit rates (12Mbps
>>>>        
>>>>
>>11g .vs 11Mbps 11b) the
>>    
>>
>>>>        Eb/No
>>>>        curves are almost identical.
>>>>
>>>>        If your environment has a high delay
>>>>        
>>>>
>>spread (lots of multipath),
>>    
>>
>>>>        then
>>>>        11g's 800ns guard interval may get a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>signal through a lot
>>    
>>
>>>>        "farther" than
>>>>        11b's nominal 110ns tollerance for delay
>>>>        
>>>>
>>spread.
>>    
>>
>>>>>So you have to decide, do you want the range for
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>the max
>>    
>>
>>>>        throughput or at
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>just the point before it stops working?  Another
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>problem is that the
>>    
>>
>>>>>power drain is largely dependent on the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>manufactuer's strength
>>    
>>
>>>>        of the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>radio.  All radios are not the same strength. 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Off the top of my
>>    
>>
>>>>        head,
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I think many pcmcia 802.11b cards are 150mW but
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>definiteily not all
>>    
>>
>>>>>(don't quote me on that, it's just a number
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>floating around in
>>    
>>
>>>>        my head
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>that seems right).  So you'd probably have to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>take the average
>>    
>>
>>>>        here, or
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>maybe different numbers for different
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>strengths...  Then
>>    
>>
>>>>        ofcourse the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>cost is going to be all over the map, good luck
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>on that one.
>>    
>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>        The original questions are unaswerable
>>>>        
>>>>
>>without a lot more
>>    
>>
>>>>        information.
>>>>
>>>>        However, the Eb/No (SNR) curves for the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>WiMax PHYs, operated in
>>    
>>
>>>>        unlicensed spectrum, at equivalent bit
>>>>        
>>>>
>>rates are approximately
>>    
>>
>>>>        the same,
>>>>        and anyone operating WiMax or WiFi in
>>>>        
>>>>
>>unlicensed spectrum must
>>    
>>
>>>>        operate
>>>>        under 47 CFR Part 15.247 (ISM) or 15.407
>>>>        
>>>>
>>(U-NII), so there is
>>    
>>
>>>*no*
>>>      
>>>
>>>>        inherent advantage of either WiMax or
>>>>        
>>>>
>>WiFi (compared to each
>>    
>>
>>>other)
>>>      
>>>
>>>>        under these conditions.
>>>>
>>>>        If you don't believe me, I invite you to
>>>>        
>>>>
>>study the IEEE
>>    
>>
>>>>        documents carefully.
>>>>
>>>>        *most* 802.11b cards operated with
>>>>        
>>>>
>>16-17dBm (32mW - 50mW) of
>>    
>>
>>>>        transmit
>>>>        power.  There are specialty cards with
>>>>        
>>>>
>>100mW or more of transmit
>>    
>>
>>>>        power
>>>>        available.  All other things being
>>>>        
>>>>
>>equal, building a high-power
>>    
>>
>>>>        11g card
>>>>        is more expensive than building a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>high-power 11b card, due to
>>    
>>
>>>>        peak-to-average power ratio issues.  
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Since WiMax also uses
>>    
>>
>>>>        OFDM, with
>>>>        similar modulation envelopes, it will
>>>>        
>>>>
>>also face PAPR .vs
>>    
>>
>>>linearity
>>>      
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President,
>>>      
>>>
>>Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>    
>>
>>>Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since
>>>      
>>>
>>1993
>>    
>>
>>>Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying
>>>      
>>>
>>License-Free Wireless WANs"
>>    
>>
>>>True Vendor-Neutral WISP
>>>      
>>>
>>Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting
>>    
>>
>>>Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 
>>>      
>>>
>>www.ask-wi.com
>>    
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>"Being a bit scattered tends to be a trait of highly
>>imaginative people."
>>The more you rattle the marbles around in your
>>brain, the more creative new
>>connections you make, as it were
>>� connections that might be lost on those focusing
>>intently on just the red
>>ones.
>>  - Ed Vogel, University of Oregon, Department of
>>Neuroscience
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
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