There are dualradio systems http://news.tmcnet.com/news/2006/04/20/1590614.htm availabe for much less $ than the tropos singleradio system. Tropos is about the woirst deal out there as far as performance for the $ is concerned. If an install can afford tropos theycan easy afford the higher performing alternatives. Just mho
Tim Schaeffer Network Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona > > Aside from minimizing heavy backhauls - dual radio designs are quite > cost-prohibited especially for budgetary conscious munis (i.e., New > Orleans) > at least on a very large scale basis - Tempe AZ is an exception but don't > expect heavy adoption until of course the economies of scale kick in. > > I have nothing against dual radio models, on paper they are advantageous. > In > fact, if you haven't informed already Tropos did recently announce a dual > radio system. Later than some may have expected but this was due to wise > business planning both from an economics and real-world (wait and see > approach) deployment evolution. I would per adventure to say to date they > haven't seen it as a crucial need in their 300+ deployments. > > So rather than writing this particular organization off - allow yourself > just a bit more of time they will step up to the plate and again silence > their critics. > > > Matthew > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of Jack Unger > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona > > > OK. Good luck to both the one-armed baseball player and to Earthlink. > > Matthew Reed wrote: > >> >> Dated but a great article >> >> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/columns/article.php/3391231 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >> Of Jack Unger >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >> >> >> Matthew, >> >> With all due respect to you, I must offer the following... >> >> Per Wireless Broadband Innovations's website: "Entries will be judged on >> the basis of the information provided to the independent judging panel >> on the entry form and additional supporting materials where permitted. >> Details of the judging panel meetings will not be disclosed". >> >> Unfortunately, it looks as if this Tropos award proves only that the >> claims that Tropos submitted about their "architecture" sounded sexier >> than the claims made by AirSpan, PicoChip, and SkyPilot. >> >> In terms of performance, Tropos single-radio, single-band mesh >> architecture is like a one-armed baseball player who claims that they >> can outplay a two-armed (dual-band, multiple-radio mesh node) baseball >> player. In time, the truth will become obvious. In the next year or two, >> the real-world deployments of the upcoming Tropos-based Philadelphia and >> San Francisco mesh networks may very well reveal the truth in terms of >> both performance and cost. >> >> Hopefully, some day soon, Tropos will "wake up" and offer a two, three, >> or four-radio dual-band mesh node. Only then can they (IMHO) claim to be >> a major-league contender. >> >> All the best, >> jack >> >> >> Matthew Reed wrote: >> >> >>>Friends at SOCALWUG - >>>According to Wireless Broadband Innovation's >>> >>>Tropos was awarded Best WiMAX / Wireless Broadband Product 2006 >>>Tropos was also nominated for Best Public WiFi Product 2006 >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >> Behalf >> >>>Of Tim Schaeffer >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:29 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>>Sure for mesh all of the follwing handily outperform tropos: belair, >> >> strix, >> >>>firetide, qorvus, and both firetide and qorvus ae much less expensive and >>>both have builtin 5 ghz backhaul, which tropos makes you buy a seperat >>>motorola canopy for. Nomaix is just a captive portal with a firewall and >>>waled garden, any linux box can be configured that way using nocat and >>>iptables. Or for a cmmercial product you can Colubris. And qorvus already >>>has the nomadix function built into there box. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Matthew Reed >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:55 PM >>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>> >>> Tim, I noticed in you're post you didn't list any of the better >> >> solutions >> >>>so could you for the sake of the forum members offer one. Also, I don't >> >> know >> >>>if you're were aware of this an article was put out last week concerning >> >> the >> >>>Top 10 movers and shakers in Telecom, guess who made the list? >>>http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=94333&page_number=1&site= >>> >>> >>> >>> Matthew Reed >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>-- >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>Behalf Of Tim Schaeffer >>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:15 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>> >>> >>> Ijust always like it better when the best cost/perfroming systems win >> >> the >> >>>bid. Tropos is far far away from that- so is nomadix for that matter :) >> >> Much >> >>>better solutions for less money are readily availabkle these days. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim Schaeffer >>> Network Engineer >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Richard >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:23 AM >>> >>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah! >>> >>> Very perceptive, Larry... >>> >>> WHERE'S MINE!?!? >>> >>> On 5/13/06, Larry Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >>> >>> Do I detect some jealousy here? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>Behalf Of Tim Schaeffer >>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:18 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>> Marketing hype wins over technology and costeffectiveness. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim Schaeffer >>> Network Engineer >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Frank Keeney >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:58 PM >>> >>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] WiFi Launched in Downtown Pomona >>> >>> >>> >>> "The City of Pomona Califonia reached an agreement with Affiliated >>>Computer Services in a joint pilot project with Cheetah Wireless >>>Technologies, Inc. , Tropos Networks and Nomadix to use wireless >> >> technology >> >>>and innovative applications to enhance government efficiency, promote >>>economic growth, foster greater community satisfaction and bridge the >>>digital divide." >>> >>> Full press release here. >>> >>> >>> >>> More news from Muniwireless. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Frank Keeney >>> >>> http://www.unwiredadventures.com >>> >>> http://www.wlanparts.com >>> >> >> > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > Our next WISP Workshop is June 21-22 in Atlanta, GA. > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1553 (20060522) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SOCALWUG" group. 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