WOW! Danka Steve. to use an altered phrase from the movie "Full Metal Jacket" and one of my favorite phrases by-the-way.
"Get on your knees and choke yourself, not with your hands with my hands" my version now, "Get on your knees and slap yourself, not with my hands, with your hands" heh heh Don On Feb 7, 2008 7:24 PM, Steve Stroh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paraphrasing Elmer Fudd: "Be vewy, vewy careful - it's "broadband > cellular user" hunting season." The cellular salesdroids are cut from > the same cloth as used car salesdroids; they'll say damn near anything > to make the sale. > > I get announcements EVERY day from Verizon Wireless extolling that yet > another service area is now upgraded to Broadband. > > What that's telling me, reading vewy, vewy carefully... 100% of > Verizon Wireless' 1xEV-DO Network is Rev. A... which is NOT the same > as 100% of Verizon Wireless' network being 1xEV-DO. > > Verizon Wireless Broadband plans are NOT "100% unlimited access"; > again, reading very carefully, if you dive into the Terms Of Service, > buried in there is (finally... they got pounded severely for not > disclosing this, and finally did publish it) a disclaimer that if you > do more than 5 GB of transfer per month (I'm not sure how this is > measured), then they throttle you, chastise you, and if you do it too > often, they'll release you as a customer. > > HSPA / HSDPA / HSUPA is not proprietary to AT&T. It's the official > evolution path to what most of the world would call "slow broadband" - > speeds within the typical speed range of DSL. (That's a distinct > improvement from the typical speed range of dialup / ISDN.) T-Mobile > will undoubtedly be using the same technology, albeit tweaked a bit > because they're using 1.7 / 2.1 GHz spectrum instead of the more usual > 1.9 GHz spectrum. > > Aircard, if memory serves, is a brand name of Sierra Wireless. EVDO > card would be a generic term. Express Bus, PCMCIA/PC Card, and USB are > different ways of connecting the "wireless modem" to the computer. I > recommend USB because it can be used interchangably on all different > types of computers - the former two can't work on a desktop unit > without a lot of pain retrofitting an adapter. Also... if you're > thinking about using a USB "wireless modem", it draws significant > power, so if you're going to use it with a USB hub, it must be a > powered USB hub. > > As for coverage maps, they're the new fourth type of lie, after lies, > damn lies, and statistics. All that a coverage map tells you is where > the cells are and their best wild-ass-guess that you can probably > connect within a mile or so of any given site, and then they paint the > aggregate coverage on a map. > > Is HSxPA widely deployed in the US? Do you REALLY care? I'd guess not. > The only thing you'll really care about is if it's deployed where YOU > intend to use it. If so, great, you'll be happy. If not, you won't be > happy. So ask pointed questions, especially of those in your circle > who you know is using it and liking it. Don't believe the salesdroids. > > HSxPA will be like 1xEV-DO Rev. A on Verizon Wireless and Sprint > Nextel - biggest cities first, then secondary cities, then expanding > out. There was an announcement today from AT&T with some doublespeak > that basically boiled down to that they'll expand their broadband > service to cover the 350 biggest US cities by the end of the year, AND > (separate statement - weasel wording) that by the end of the year, all > of their broadband service will be HSxPA. > > Yes, real-world speeds are roughly equivalent between HSxPA and > 1xEV-DO Rev. A. It's not much use comparing theoretical speeds - those > depend on channel loading, distance, quality of signal, phase of the > moon, color of your socks, etc. HSxPA is theoretically faster and has > room to grow, but there's already development happening for 1xEV-DO > Rev. B. > > To me, it boils down to Sprint doesn't seem to act evil when it comes > to doing the typical things we all want to do with our Internet > connection. Verizon Wireless and AT&T are very... "uptight" if you try > to do too much with their broadband services. T-Mobile isn't in the > broadband game yet; ditto Clearwire unless they've deployed in your > city AND it's Mobile WiMAX (two cities experimentally deployed to > date, so they're not a factor at the moment). > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:05 PM, Don Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, > > > > I had to do some quick self-edjumacating on EVDO & 1XRTT. > > and found this excellent Article link below: > > > > it basically, says: > > > > 1xRTT is the default once you get outside of EVDO coverage area. (speed > > 144kpbs up/down, > > Average is more like 80kbps) > > > > Then there is Rev. 0 (speed 400 - 700 kbps) > > and after that Rev. A. (speed 500-1000 kbps) > > > > > > EVDO is a U.S. thing, Europe uses GSM. > > > > > > Verizon is now 100% Rev. A > > Verizon was first, Sprint quickly catching up. > > > > According to the article BOTH are $59.99 with unlimited access. > > > > The article also has a EVDOMaps.com link but it doesn't come up. > > > > > > And I guess terminology wise, the aircard, EVDO card, modem card lingo > are > > used interchangebly > > (e.g. express, pcmcia, and USB) > > > > And I'm not sure all about the AT&T HSxPA. is that their own proprietary > > thing> > > > > http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/37/61/ > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > On 2/7/08, Frank Keeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I do understand this. > > > > > > But is HSDPA widely deployed in the US (vs. Sprint/Verizon EVDO)? Are > it's > > > speeds comparable to EVDO rev A? > > > > > > Frank > > -- > Steve Stroh > Editor / Analyst, Stroh Publications LLC > 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SOCALWUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SOCALWUG SOCALWUG website: http://www.socalwug.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
