You're correct.  Nomadix has used a capture page for wired technology.  I'm
familiar with their DSL and Ethernet capture system.  It was installed in
hotels, apartment buildings, etc.

The system would capture ethernet sessions from computers plugged in to
jacks in the hotel room and display a captive portal page, with options.

Naturally, the same technology carried over to wi-fi.  And that's probably
what the intellectual property from this patent was derived from.

I first learned about this a few years ago.  I don't remember exactly, but
it was before Wi-Fi was a household word, that's for sure.

-Mike

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I believe I have seen this done with wired services, both with Cable 
and actual residential broadband (www.bredbandsbolaget.se). It would 
seem likely that it was first done in a wired setting, which was later 
transferred to, and (tragically) patented for, wireless connectivity.

There's nothing like "intellectual property" when it comes to stifling 
creativity and development, is there?

- Jakob

On Jan 26, 2004, at 11:54 PM, Joseph Hsieh wrote:

> A gateway redirect spoofs the DNS and "hijacks" the intended 
> destination
> page.  It therefore acts as a guardian to OTHER sites' pages as opposed
> to a website redirect where it can only protect its own content.
>
> ~Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chris Kelly
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SOCALWUG] New License Fee May Face Hotspot Operators
>
> On 26 Jan 2004 at 20:30, Ronan Higgins, Cafe.com wrote:
>> Surely URL "capture" predates wi-fi and wireless hotspots?  Wasn't it
> used
>> in some traditional dial-up ISP NAS (Network Access Server)
> applications?
>
> Go to (for instance) any latimes.com story URL and it will redirect you
> to a login page if you
> aren't already logged in. I'm sure other sites have been doing 
> something
> similar since very near
> the start of the web.
>
>

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