Sorry Jim,

I was but specific enough it is not the standard that is the problem but
the chip makers read i.e. http://www.vnunet.com/analysis/1140873

Martin

>
> The issue is not that the implementation is messed-up (switching
> modes), but rather that the AP must clear the air (via
> promiscuous CTS) before sending any OFDM-encoded frame.
>
> If it doesn't, then the B units in the area might not set CCA, and, if
> they send a frame while either the AP or one of its
> 'G' clients is attempting to receive a frame, interference will result.
>
> You get 'mixed mode' as soon as a single 'B' unit is associated, even
> if its not sending any traffic.
>
> 802.11a and 802.11b were ratified at the same time (Sept 1997).
> 802.11g came along later.
>
> Jim
>
> On Jun 27, 2004, at 9:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> There are wireless units that supports both 5.8 and 2.4 at the same
>> time
>> those are the dual-band units, i.e.
>> http://www.linksys.com/products/group.asp?grid=33&scid=35
>>
>> As Larry said, mixed mode is used if u have both G and B units in use
>> on
>> the same AP, the reason that G mode will not support B units, is that
>> B units do not understand the OFDM modulation used by G (to boost
>> performance to 54 Mbit/s). B uses CKK and Barker code. But in mixed
>> mode
>> the chipset uses different modulation for each session, this is not
>> very
>> well implemented so if you have G and B units on the same AP, the G
>> units
>> will take a big performance hit because of the switching between OFDM
>> and
>> CKK.
>>
>> Martin Madsen
>>
>>> Your wireless router can only transmit/receive on one frequency
>>> band...
>>> thus you cannot mix 2.4 GHz B and G with 5.8GHz A... A stands alone,
>>> and
>>> I think it has gone the way of the Betamax.
>>> Your router may be allowing you to set it for "B only" or "G only",
>>> and
>>> I am guessing mixed mode would be used if you have some B and some G
>>> enabled clients on your network.
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Behalf Of car val
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:11 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [SOCALWUG] the "A" protocol
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi SOCALWUG Membership,
>>>
>>> I'm missing something??
>>>
>>> I know the "B" was the first protocol transmitting at
>>> 11Mbit/s freq 2.4MHz
>>>
>>> Protocol  "A"  was second  transmitting at 54Mbit/s
>>> freq 5.0 MHz
>>> this was more for commercial use, and was transmitting
>>> freq 5.0 MHz had less interference with wireless
>>> phones (2.4 Mhz)
>>>
>>> then "G" came along at 54Mbit/s freq 2.4MHz
>>> this protocol was able to pick up both  "B & A"??
>>>
>>>
>>> my question, my Linksys wireless Router (WRT54GS)
>>>
>>> has wireless settings for transmitting at
>>>
>>> 1) Disabled
>>> 2) Mixed
>>> 3) "B"
>>> 4) "G"
>>>
>>>
>>> shouldn't it be as follows??
>>>
>>> 1) Disabled
>>> 2) Mixed (would be "G")
>>> 3) "B"
>>> 4) "A"
>>>
>>> Second Question, I never see Wireless "A"  AP,  or
>>> Router  advertised??,  do they exist??
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> carval
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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