Links to social media is a great service, especially if we give continuous updates (even if they are "we are still down but working on it").
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali* Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige <http://wikimedia.se> 0729 - 67 29 48 *Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. <http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se> 2015-02-05 22:42 GMT+01:00 James Alexander <[email protected]>: > Aye, it definitely caused surges (especially when they happened during > fundraising time) it just felt very dirty :) > > I'm totally ok with the social media links though, especially if we commit > to trying to keep the ones we link to up to date with info about outages. > > James Alexander > Legal and Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Victor Grigas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I also recall that there was one pre-2011 outage (when the fundraising >> ask was there) that turned out to be the biggest fundraising event of the >> year, so we could gain a ton of subscribers to our social media accounts by >> placing links there. >> >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Victor Grigas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:37 PM, James Alexander < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Victor Grigas <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a reason that we don't have a fundraising ask in the error / >>>>> down message? I think we used to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> We did used to, I think it came down in the rename for a couple reasons: >>>> >>>> 1. People were always uncomfortable with it. It made it sound very >>>> strongly like we were down BECAUSE we didn't have enough money or similar >>>> and even led to some people worried (on social media and directly) that we >>>> had come down specifically to ask for donations). >>>> >>>> 2. We cant' send them through the normal donation flow, because the >>>> donation services may well be down too (and, in fact, often are. They were >>>> down for this downtime as well) . So we only gave them a paypal email >>>> address which ends up with random amounts of money being dumped into our >>>> account directly without any good ways for us to track where they came from >>>> or give the users a good donation experience. >>>> >>>> 3. I know in 2011 (after we made this change) we worked to stop random >>>> donations sent directly into our paypal email address because we weren't >>>> able to track it and they were starting to become problematic (100s of >>>> donations so small that we lost money on them for example). I don't know >>>> what the case now is though. >>>> >>>> James Alexander >>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Social-media mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>>> >>>> >>> Maybe then, instead of pointing people to donate (which it sounds like >>> there are good reasons to remove) we could instead point people to our >>> social media accounts, where they would >>> >>> 1.) likely be able to be updated >>> >>> and >>> >>> 2.) 'like' us >>> >>> ? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Victor Grigas* >>> Storyteller <http://youtu.be/ci0Pihl2zXY> >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> [email protected] >>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Victor Grigas* >> Storyteller <http://youtu.be/ci0Pihl2zXY> >> Wikimedia Foundation >> [email protected] >> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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