Hmm. Maybe it's easier to send the SM out and deal with the tech fine print by having people read a full write-up from the provided links?
I mainly wish that we could use some relatively safe, apolitical, uncontroversial article for the example. Pine On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jun 13, 2015 1:06 AM, "Pine W" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Perhaps we should take the discussion of how best to measure page > rendering performance to Wikitech. Would that be ok with you? > > We could. Or maybe the research or analytics lists list would be better. > > But should that block getting the SM out the door? > > > I agree that there is value in continuity, but remember that Wikipedia > articles change over time, so unless someone is using a specific rev for > measuring every time that they make a change to how the page renders, then > there is likely to be at least some unreliability in the measurement. > > Obviously we could double check this but I'd wager that Obama's cite count > would have trended upward in the last couple years. (so e.g. if we compared > older HHVM vs. newer HHVM with constant Obama rev the gains would be more > extreme than if we did older HHVM + older Obama vs. newer HHVM + newer > Obama) > > Anyway, it should be technically feasible to run benchmarks for old > software again against the new revisions. In this case the author wasn't > actually comparing to past numbers. (I think...) Only generating his own > new numbers for a constant rev. And anyway, the comparison to old numbers > wouldn't be meaningful (without rerunning them) because hardware's not > constant. > > > Technical factors like bandwidth and geolocation may also be involved in > skewing the validity of comparisons. > > I can't imagine a scenario where that's relevant. Does anyone benchmark > specific articles over the public internet? vs. running the client on the > same local network as the server. > > > For most citations, there appears to be a manually updated list here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_with_the_most_references > > not just manually updated but each entry has its own separate update > date??? hrmmm, Obama is listed lower on that list than another article with > Obama in title… > > -Jeremy > > P.S. the recently released slow parse logs may be useful for choosing > articles to track over time. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98563 > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > >
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