Setting aside the benchmark measurement, Obama is extremely well-known, and that will help get traction on social... as opposed to city nicknames or law clerks of the US Supreme Court.
--Ed On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm. Maybe it's easier to send the SM out and deal with the tech fine > print by having people read a full write-up from the provided links? > > I mainly wish that we could use some relatively safe, apolitical, > uncontroversial article for the example. > > Pine > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Jun 13, 2015 1:06 AM, "Pine W" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Perhaps we should take the discussion of how best to measure page >> rendering performance to Wikitech. Would that be ok with you? >> >> We could. Or maybe the research or analytics lists list would be better. >> >> But should that block getting the SM out the door? >> >> > I agree that there is value in continuity, but remember that Wikipedia >> articles change over time, so unless someone is using a specific rev for >> measuring every time that they make a change to how the page renders, then >> there is likely to be at least some unreliability in the measurement. >> >> Obviously we could double check this but I'd wager that Obama's cite >> count would have trended upward in the last couple years. (so e.g. if we >> compared older HHVM vs. newer HHVM with constant Obama rev the gains would >> be more extreme than if we did older HHVM + older Obama vs. newer HHVM + >> newer Obama) >> >> Anyway, it should be technically feasible to run benchmarks for old >> software again against the new revisions. In this case the author wasn't >> actually comparing to past numbers. (I think...) Only generating his own >> new numbers for a constant rev. And anyway, the comparison to old numbers >> wouldn't be meaningful (without rerunning them) because hardware's not >> constant. >> >> > Technical factors like bandwidth and geolocation may also be involved >> in skewing the validity of comparisons. >> >> I can't imagine a scenario where that's relevant. Does anyone benchmark >> specific articles over the public internet? vs. running the client on the >> same local network as the server. >> >> > For most citations, there appears to be a manually updated list here: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_with_the_most_references >> >> not just manually updated but each entry has its own separate update >> date??? hrmmm, Obama is listed lower on that list than another article with >> Obama in title… >> >> -Jeremy >> >> P.S. the recently released slow parse logs may be useful for choosing >> articles to track over time. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98563 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > -- Ed Erhart Editorial Intern Wikimedia Foundation
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