[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not buy that new gizmo, an alarm clock, digital clock, radio, telephone,
intercom, digital recorder etc. Why? too many things in one box. If one goes, then
the whole box is useless.
That's *your* opinion, though. A whole lot of people disagree with
you. Look at the booming market for picture-taking, PDA, MP3-playing,
video game-playing, flash-drive-storing, cell phones with internet
access and TXT messenging... Or the video game consoles with PDA stuff,
(ala PSP, Nintendo DS) - or the plethora of digital alarm clock
CD-playing stereo phones - or the Fax, Scan, Copy, Printers.... I could
go on and on. They sell microwaves with toasters and coffeemakers in
them.... They wouldn't keep making them if they didn't sale. The only
point of an office *SUITE* is to have a plethora of tools for you.
Otherwise, just grab AbiWord or whatever "one-tool-for-one-job" thing
you want/need.
If the main idea is documentation then OOo is stretching it now as far as I am
concerned, with the presentations thing. That is not documenting but presenting. or
maybe communicating.
But on the otherhand, a calendar is both documenting and communicating.
There are a few people, myself included believe that OOo is very large at present,
why add more to it? The extra could be another suite, maybe MTb or maybe OO.
Why add more to it? Because the "few people" who think it is too big
have options. AbiWord is the first one that comes to mind, but there
are plenty others out there. KOffice, if you use Linux. IWork or
AppleWorks if you use Mac. There's always MS Works for Windows - or
just MS Word....
Now, I agree that the *download* is too big. I agree that you *should*
be able to download *just* Writer if you wanted to. But saying that we
should never add anything is wrong.
Personally, OOo could use a DTP (that's within the realm of Document
Creation). And I do not agree that Draw does this. It may be able to
do some of the work, but so can Writer. That doesn't make either one a
Desktop Publisher. I think intragating or interfacing or whatever you
want to call it, with Mozilla is a good first step. I think GIMP should
be added to that list too, because bitmap creation goes under the
umbrella that Daniel abritarily put up for us.
Now for you "few people" who think OOo's too big - I would agree that
these should all be *optional* - but they should be there. Not jsut a
link to mozilla.org either - I mean an intragated version with a common
interface and internal links. A OOo version of Firefox - not a fork,
the canonical Firefox with some OOo-specific themes and extensions.
I've got Firefox on my Windows PC to look and feel as close as it can to
Internet Explorer without losing the security... The same can be done
with Ff to Sarfari (Mac OS X) - my point is, if they can make it look
like IE or Sarfari or GNOME or whatever - we can make it look like OOo..
I know OOo doesn't have a browser (hence the need for one) but there is
a certain way OOo looks and feels. Carry over the icons we can (Open,
Close, Cut, Paste, Spell-check, etc) and make ones that "fix" for
Firefox. Add a OOo-program bar that will open any of the modes of OOo
(Writer, Calc, Impress, etc.) frtom Firefox - and of course, a
OOo-document viewer. There ya go.
And add some hooks on OOo's part, too. A button in Impress that will
open the presentation directly in Firefox. A "view in Firefox" button
for the HTML-editor. (And an "edit in OOo HTML" button for Firefox.)
And the same for Thunderbird "Send in Thunderbird" button on all of OOo,
and an "edit in OOo" button for TB. You all get the idea.
All of this could be done without rewriting the code. The Mozilla
aspect could all be done through the existing Extensions/Themes mode.
OOo's hooks into Moz, well, that would require some coding. But maybe
even through macros at first. I think it should be canonical OOo,
though, in the long run.
And for those "freedom of choice" fans out there - we could always have
it be an option of which browser/email cleint you use - but Mozilla
should be the default, if for no other reasons than it is cross-platform
and open source.
I think this would solve a lot of the "OOo needs...." complaints. First
we work with Mozilla - then GIMP. And since GIMP is already up for
sharing with its GTK+ Toolkit - I don't think that would be a hard
selll, either.
Didn't we like decide to work with Mozilla over a year ago anyway????
-Chad Smith
