On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 10:55, John W. Kennedy wrote:

> Obviously, there are sometimes going to be gray areas, but if it is not
> possible to say at some point, "Whoa! That simply isn't what
> Christianity says," then it is not possible to hold a rational
> discussion on the subject at all.

I guess my point is that even in the one general religion, there are a lot of 
views as to the actual beliefs. That's why there are many different 
'christian' faiths. If we then go to other religions, there is going to be a 
lot of variety in what they believe. Just because they believe something that 
you might call 'magic', it doen't necessarily mean it's not a religion. I'm 
not sure if wiccan is considered a religion or not. I suppose it would depend 
on the person and their point of view. Obviously some people consider 'jedi' 
to be a religion.

tim

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