On the other side of this coin (which I completely agree with, BTW) I have many net-4801 units running flawlessly and haven't been rebooted in many years. I anticipate they will last another 5 years unless the throughput begins to exceed their capacity.
All of my 6501-70's have been replaced by 5-port MITXPC and PC Engines apu2c4. Cheers! -----Original Message----- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Scott Gustafson Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:41 AM To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8minutes > On Apr 19, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Ken Hornstein <k...@pobox.com> wrote: > - The only useful information regarding this problem AT ALL in the > past few YEARS has been suggestions on this mailing list for products > to replace your Soekris with. I appreciated seeing all of the different hardware recommendations and solutions that others have chosen as well as the fact that there were lots of people experiencing problems with Soekris boxes. Had I not known about the problems, I probably wouldn't have replaced my box until it died suddenly. Since I have recently (2017) retired my 6501-70 before it showed any symptoms, here is what I replaced it with at less than half the cost of a new 6501-70. QOTOM-Q190G4-S01 mini pc J1900 Quad core 4 LAN https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0AN7GD/ This is based on two articles I read on Ars Technica about making your own router. Numbers don't lie-it's time to build your own router https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/numbers-dont-lie-its-time-to-build-y our-own-router/ The Router rumble: Ars DIY build faces better tests, tougher competition https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/the-router-rumble-ars-diy-build-face s-better-tests-tougher-competition/ Since this is for a home/small business router, I didn't mind the DIY aspect. I suspect there are a lot of people out there up through Medium sized businesses that wouldn't mind this approach either. If you do VPN tunnels there is also an i5 model that has AES-NI support and also less than half the cost of a new 6501-70 (https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B06XPGFG2W/). > - The "proven reliability" claim on the Soekris home page is a cruel joke. I'm surprised that it has not landed them in court yet, especially since they are in California and there are no shortage of lawyers willing to bring class action suits. What I think that means is that they are so small that there really are't any companies using them that have run into any issues and want to waste time on it versus just calling up a replacement vendor and getting something else. It probably isn't worth the hassle to sue a small company that doesn't have any money. > - The people still left on this mailing list are apparantly gluttons > for punishment. I'll be leaving the list soon as I have recently retired my 6501-70 and I can't imagine ever using it or Soekris again nor recommending them to others. I appreciated all of the folks that have discussed the issues over the years. scott --- Scott Gustafson sc...@garlicsoftware.com http://www.garlicsoftware.com 8C47 666D 90A0 09A5 263A A89D B0CC AC31 B097 C6C5 _______________________________________________ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
