1.       I found the regularize tool (Texture Editor|Tools) quite useful in 
this matter. If you apply this to your UV and move the points, the texture will 
more or less stay in place. Just don’t forget to freeze the UV (Texture 
Editor|Edit) stack

2.       And isn’t it possible to freeze only the Texture stack? AFAIK it’s 
possible…(Texture Editor|Edit)

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:56 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2014

 

Couple of problems with that:

 

1) It requires the TextureOp node to exist.  When modeling, that is often not 
the case because the construction history needs to be frozen from time to time 
from getting too large.

 

2) “Freeze M” removes the TextureOp node even if the TextureOp node is dragged 
onto a higher part of the construction history.

 

 

In short, not very useful because the user won’t be able to take advantage of 
that feature outside of simple and limited situations.

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:23 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2014

 

About Preserve UVs, that has always been  available even with explicit 
projections. Just drag the TextureOp node above the Modeling region marker. 
When you hover the mouse over the TextureOp node, the popup should say “reading 
just above Modeling”.

 

gray

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 07:56 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage 2014

 

The issue with Softimage is the pieces are there, but don’t play together nice 
enough.  The tools were adequate in the day years ago.  Production has evolved 
quite a bit since then but the Softimage modeling core has not.  Many of the 
tools I need to create for our artists cannot be done in the Softimage API due 
to lack of a developed core for things like being able to preserve textures and 
materials (clusters) when updating topology, or being able to control where 
operators appear in the construction history.

 

Example 1:  Mirror plane.

 

This is a tool from 3DSMax where the user is given an implicit plane and can 
place it to slice a mesh and have it symmetrized across the plane.  Softimage 
can do this much with the slice operator and symmetrize operator.  BUT the 
3DSMax version has the ability to continually read user input to update the 
mesh further (eg. Push/pull point positions on the original mesh and have the 
symmetrized half update in real time).  Basically it’s symmetrical modeling 
across a user defined plane of symmetry.  The user can add as many planes as 
desired to build up organic geometry very, very quickly.  Softimage’s modeling 
architecture is limited and cannot read further user input because it occurs 
higher on the construction history than the symmetry and slice operators.  
There is also no way to force those operators higher on the stack as they’re 
bound to the modeling marker.  Softimage cannot support multiple planes either 
or else instability results.

 

Example 2: Preserve UVs

 

I’m always pounded for this one.  It’s a tool which allows users to manipulate 
vertices in the 3D viewports while preserving the Texture UVs as they’re moved. 
 Eg. When a vertex is translated in one direction, the UVs associated with that 
vertex are pushed in the opposite direction to allow the vertex to ‘swim’ 
through the projection.  Softimage has a ‘swim’ feature, but only for implicit 
projections which is useless in a games development pipeline as 99% of all 
assets use explicit UV projections.  Again, like with the mirror plane, 
Softimage is limited by how it’s construction history is organized to read 
further input from the user once the operator is applied.

 

Example 3:    Locking topology

 

In a games development environment, assets are usually created piecemeal.  A 
character isn’t a solid seamless mesh.  The customizable features presented to 
the customer are often built as separate objects, but these objects must 
assemble together to appear like a seamless mesh.  This means any work to the 
vertex placement or sample data such as user normal, vertex colors, and texture 
UVs must be locked down along the seams to prevent artists from accidentally 
making modifications to these portions of the mesh.  Softimage provides no 
ability to do this.  The best option on the table is an ICE operator placed at 
the very top of the construction history to lock the user specified vertices.  
However, this falls short in that if the user clicks the ‘freeze’ button, the 
operator will be frozen and removed from construction history.  Again, 
limitation of the core architecture.

 

Example 4:  Paint.

 

The paint tools in Softimage are lacking.  They were designed for painting 
weight maps to alter envelope weights and deformers – that’s it.  The paint 
brush for vertex colors is just an extension of that and not very robust.  
There is no color palette available to load/save colors to use in other scenes, 
or even the current scene beyond the palette borrowed from windows.  There is 
no ability to compare colors side-by-side on adjacent polygons without having 
to dig into user preferences to turn off selection highlights, then turn it on 
again when you’re done with your comparison.  Very clunky.  There are no tools 
available to modify topology via paint.  The best option available is pushing 
points via the push operator which is, back to the beginning, a weight map 
tool.  We need more than deformations.  We need a paint tool that can 
destructively edit the mesh by adding vertices, edges, polygons, and samples.  
We need the adjustments for the brush to be informative and customizable to 
accommodate modeler’s needs.  Falloff options, brush tip shapes, intensity 
controls other than simple hardness applied uniformly, angular attenuation, 
operator assignments, and so on.  A ‘push’ tool has been around forever, where 
is the accompanying ‘pinch’ tool?  Max and Maya are far in the lead in this 
area.  Softimage’s paint tool qualifies technically as a paint brush, but it’s 
not a painter’s tool.  It’s designed more for somebody who does other things 
and needs an interface to quickly do a few short tasks rather than tagging 
points manually with rectangular selections all the time.  Again, production 
has since evolved quite a bit.  It’s about time the tools do too.

 

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:53 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage 2014

 

>>>EricT, Yes i know, they flat out say so in the intro "building on NEX" i 
>>>don't approve of just buying up third party plugins and highlighting them as 
>>>core features, more so with free where like "Grease Pencil" i wonder if Mr 
>>>mootz ever gets love letters from AD hounding him for his Em series

>>>Andreas and Raffaele, it's not about the grass being greener, i recently had 
>>>to fight really hard for the right to use softimage in the company i'm 
>>>currently working for, no one should have to do that. also i think you are 
>>>forgetting maya's god awful hit detection when selecting, as well as the 
>>>unintuitive UI hogging abomination which is the "tool settings panel".

When it comes to modelling the thing i like most about SI is how clean and 
stream line it is, how few things come between user and creative process.
So now i don't want to leave softimage ( i only just got here) i want 
innovation and new things to come to it.


>>>Matt L, i'm not a dev, but its all there the deformers the brush the maps, 
>>>none of these things need to be built, surely they can be hooked together 
>>>somehow, i believe someone tried back in the day on rRay, only it seemed to 
>>>be exclusive for 32bit...

On 26 March 2013 22:52, Jason S <jasonsta...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's what I was gonna say.. remains to be seen if that would remain true in 
the real world..



On 26/03/2013 5:47 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

http://www.autodesk.com/products/autodesk-maya/features

This update (Accelerated modelling tool set) pretty much seems to obliterate 
any advantage Softimage has over maya modeling wise

 

 

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