Even a "simple" service like Dropbox needs legal BS like that just so they
can legally produce a thumbnail of a picture in your folders in the web
view. They got in trouble a while back when someone saw their wording, but
they clarified it later. (Lagoa should probably clarify their stance also.)



On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Xavier Lapointe
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm no expert in this so I was just forwarding the response ... from what
> you've just said it makes sense. And yes, I've no doubt on Thiago q :
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It's pretty standard legal BS for any cloud service, without it they
>> could be sued for holding onto the files they need to render for you with
>> the back-end.
>> I very, very seriously doubt Thiago plans to use without permission any
>> of the material rendered through teamUp for promotion or sales, but the
>> gray area of cloud services requires some rather (overly) robust wording on
>> the fact they have rights on the information you provide.
>>
>> They don't acquire the IP or license for distribution in any form with
>> that, those are the clauses you really have to watch out for. The former is
>> impossible (illegal) but constitutes vice of form, the latter can plant a
>> sizeable penis firmly up your colon, especially if you're contracting.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Xavier Lapointe <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> More specifically this paragraph:
>>>
>>> You hereby grant to Lagoa a non-exclusive, royalty free, paid up,
>>> worldwide, sublicensable (but only to affiliates of Lagoa) right and
>>> license to use the information that you submit as part of the Services to
>>> copy, create, make derivative works of, display, or publicly perform the
>>> Renderings or any component thereof, provided that Lagoa shall not use
>>> the Renderings beyond the Privacy Settings that You and Lagoa have agreed
>>> to as part of the Scope of Services, and provided, further, that the
>>> license to any Renderings you have created until such time as you have paid
>>> Lagoa for use of the Services shall be irrevocable and freely sublicensable
>>> as long as such use of the Renderings is limited to the purposes of
>>> promoting Lagoa, Lagoa’s models, Lagoa’s services, or You, as the artist
>>> thereof, from the creation of such Renderings until the date that is six
>>> (6) months after the expiration or termination of your subscription to the
>>> Services.  You authorize Lagoa, on a royalty-free basis, to use and exploit
>>> any aggregated data regarding your use of the Services along with
>>> aggregated data regarding others users’ use of the Services, so long as
>>> such use does not identify You.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Xavier
>

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