I would think it's worth clarifying, because some people seems to be
interpreting the wrong way what it actually is.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Alan Fregtman <[email protected]>wrote:

> Even a "simple" service like Dropbox needs legal BS like that just so they
> can legally produce a thumbnail of a picture in your folders in the web
> view. They got in trouble a while back when someone saw their wording, but
> they clarified it later. (Lagoa should probably clarify their stance also.)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Xavier Lapointe <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm no expert in this so I was just forwarding the response ... from what
>> you've just said it makes sense. And yes, I've no doubt on Thiago q :
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It's pretty standard legal BS for any cloud service, without it they
>>> could be sued for holding onto the files they need to render for you with
>>> the back-end.
>>> I very, very seriously doubt Thiago plans to use without permission any
>>> of the material rendered through teamUp for promotion or sales, but the
>>> gray area of cloud services requires some rather (overly) robust wording on
>>> the fact they have rights on the information you provide.
>>>
>>> They don't acquire the IP or license for distribution in any form with
>>> that, those are the clauses you really have to watch out for. The former is
>>> impossible (illegal) but constitutes vice of form, the latter can plant a
>>> sizeable penis firmly up your colon, especially if you're contracting.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Xavier Lapointe <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> More specifically this paragraph:
>>>>
>>>> You hereby grant to Lagoa a non-exclusive, royalty free, paid up,
>>>> worldwide, sublicensable (but only to affiliates of Lagoa) right and
>>>> license to use the information that you submit as part of the Services to
>>>> copy, create, make derivative works of, display, or publicly perform the
>>>> Renderings or any component thereof, provided that Lagoa shall not use
>>>> the Renderings beyond the Privacy Settings that You and Lagoa have agreed
>>>> to as part of the Scope of Services, and provided, further, that the
>>>> license to any Renderings you have created until such time as you have paid
>>>> Lagoa for use of the Services shall be irrevocable and freely sublicensable
>>>> as long as such use of the Renderings is limited to the purposes of
>>>> promoting Lagoa, Lagoa’s models, Lagoa’s services, or You, as the artist
>>>> thereof, from the creation of such Renderings until the date that is six
>>>> (6) months after the expiration or termination of your subscription to the
>>>> Services.  You authorize Lagoa, on a royalty-free basis, to use and exploit
>>>> any aggregated data regarding your use of the Services along with
>>>> aggregated data regarding others users’ use of the Services, so long as
>>>> such use does not identify You.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
>>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Xavier
>>
>
>


-- 
Xavier

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