Well, my apologies too, the e-mail was likely way too snappy. It's just I'm getting very, very tired of seeing mailing lists turning so dark. What prominent private lists there are see every industry discussion quickly turn into union VS anti-union, or subsidies discussions or the inactions of VES.
What technical lists there are have every other thread about roadmaps or features or issues quickly turn from potentially useful discussion and fixes/workarounds into giving AD some lip and blaming various unrelated departments for how bad they are at some thing or another, and the original issues and any related discussions quickly thin out. I'm not an AD apologist, and there are plenty threads and cases where I think a healthy dose of reality and telling them how you feel has its place, just it can't be every other thread IMO, and not as aggressively as we some times do it, especially recently (it's only by some thick skin that some AD employees are still posting IMO, and I'd really rather not lose their contributions). Now, as I'm doing exactly what I'm complaining about, I'll quietly bow out and let it be about versions again. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Sven Constable <[email protected]>wrote: > My statement was a bit generic. I apologize for that. But the SP2 for 2014 > includes two bugfixes. I would call that a hotfix.**** > > >

