What about paying for the fancy "*AD consulting*" to get some QFEs for those showstoppers? Was that considered or attempted?
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Matt Lind <[email protected]> wrote: > I dispute it’s better to stay on subscription.**** > > ** ** > > Case in point being the fact we were stuck on Softimage 7.5 for nearly 5 > years, not because we didn’t want to upgrade, but because there were no > releases without technical issues preventing our upgrade. Being forced > into subscription would be more expensive than the perpetual license model > as we’d have to continue paying AD with no return to show for it. Under > the perpetual license model we wouldn’t be obligated to pay anything.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Matt**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Graham Bell > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:22 AM > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* RE: Autodesk´s Sales model**** > > ** ** > > Regarding the announcements made at the investor day, I posted this on > another forum as part of an ongoing thread….**** > > ** ** > > I think there's a lot of crossed wires here over his news and just > assuming that Autodesk are following Adobe literally to the letter. Yes, > there are Suites and now we have rental options (you can still buy > perpetual), but this news is really just about Autodesk discontinuing their > upgrade model. As of Feb 1st 2015 (still over a year away), users will be > unable to upgrade old versions to the current version.**** > > ** ** > > Regarding upgrades and what the term actually means, this is the ability > to upgrade an Autodesk product from a previous version to the current > version. So for example, someone has purchased a product and they may have > stopped their subscription (if they bought it) for a period of time, and > they then wish to upgrade to the most current version of their software.** > ** > > ** ** > > Autodesk currently allow customer to upgrade their software to the current > version, for a fee. Until this year, there were different upgrade pricing > depending on how old the software version was, that someone wanted to > upgrade from. Also, (if I recall) there was no limit to how old a version > of software was, that someone wanted to upgrade.**** > > ** ** > > As of this year, the upgrade policy was changed and basically simplified. > Only the previous 6 versions will remain upgradeable. Owners of older > software versions who wanted the current version would need to purchase > entirely new licenses.**** > > ** ** > > If you did have a version eligible for upgrading, a single pricing > structure was put in place. User upgrading to the current version, would > have to pay 70% of the new license price for an upgrade.**** > > ** ** > > Essentially, the idea of staying on an old version of software and then > just paying to upgrade to the current version when you thought it was > necessary, becomes detrimental to actually just keeping on subscription. To > keep up to date and have previous version usage, it actually makes more > sense to remain on subscription.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > G**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Sebastien Sterling > *Sent:* 16 October 2013 00:06 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Autodesk´s Sales model**** > > ** ** > > is this it for maya ? > > http://www.autodesk.com/products/autodesk-maya/buy**** > > ** ** > > On 15 October 2013 23:48, Sergio Mucino <[email protected]> wrote: > **** > > Autodesk is for some reason following Adobe's footsteps quite accurately. > Adobe started selling suites... Adesk did. Adobe goes rental... Adesk > follows. I really can't tell how positive or not the change will be, and > what it will mean for the future of the tools... I guess we'll have to wait > and see. The reactions to these decisions have been varied (some people are > not happy at all, some are quite happy).**** > > > **** > > > On 15/10/2013 4:52 PM, Sven Constable wrote: **** > > Of course I meant one third of the costs for every tool, not three. And I > used "thirds" as a term incorrectly. It was lost in translation. Sorry > about that.**** > > **** > > sven **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Sven Constable > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:33 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Autodesk´s Sales model > **** > > **** > > uhm, isn't he idea behind this model to cut any development costs by three > thirds in particular and sell all three as one package for a higher price? > And make it sound a good deal because costumers will get three tools > instead of one even they don't need one or two of them? Maybe I do not > comprehend here.**** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Daniel Brassard > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Autodesk´s Sales model > **** > > **** > > It is this article and the current Softimage cross-grade offer that make > me decide to take the jump to the Ultimate Suite. I am glad I did, I can > now test plugins and shaders on the three platforms and do other things as > well. And enough money left for some nice plugins or apps too.**** > > **** > > AD may have a smart thing going here, let's see what the future bring.**** > > **** > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Alan Fregtman <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Did you read the whole thing?**** > > **** > > From the article:**** > > *"The plan is to shift customers away from single product purchases > toward suites, and to move from buying perpetual licenses to acquiring > software on long-term subscription or short-term rental."***** > > **** > > **** > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM, David Rivera < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > I came across this link:**** > > > http://gfxspeak.com/2013/10/02/autodesk-sales-strategy-includes-discontinuing-upgrade-purchases/ > **** > > **** > > So what happened to the "rental" sales model?**** > > **** > > David R.**** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** >
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