Sofronis, jumping to Maya and then to 3r app later kinda seems waste of
time.. Instead wouldn't it be better to stick to proven tool that still can
serve for couple years at least even without single development on it and
then when something decent is on market to jump??



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Vincent Fortin <[email protected]> wrote:

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>> Am 27.02.2014 um 01:35 schrieb James De Colling <
>> [email protected]>:
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>> it's a crap policy to be sure,  however,  given the last couple of
>> releases,  maybe 2015 isn't worth the bother,  and we all save money :)
>> On 27/02/2014 11:18 AM, "Scott Parrish" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I'm actually confused why Autodesk even thinks this is a good idea from
>>> a monetization and customer retention standpoint.
>>> It might sound like a good way to make more money by forcing most users
>>> to stay on subscription or pay a penalty for a lapse in coverage.
>>> In practice however, it might give smaller shops and individuals who are
>>> less married to a pipeline built around a particular piece of software an
>>> opportunity to change to another software package when they're coverage
>>> lapses.
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>>> Let's see, would I like to pay MSRP for Soft or Maya again because I
>>> didnt feel like paying subscription this past year? Or should I evaluate
>>> other options that I can buy for about the same price and with better terms
>>> for maintenance or future upgrades?
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>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Matt Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Inclined to agree.
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>>>> On 27 February 2014 00:10, Scott Parrish <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> Again, I know!
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>>>>> I just think the new upgrade policy is bullsh*%.
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>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Graham Bell <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>> Well of course it's limited, because the upgrade policy itself is
>>>>>> changing next year.
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>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish
>>>>>> Sent: 26 February 2014 22:39
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>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: new upgrade policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not news, no. But it is a pretty anti-consumer change in policy.
>>>>>> The 70% discount is for a limited time only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says right there in the FAQ:
>>>>>> How can a customer get current if they have an older version of
>>>>>> software after February 1, 2015?
>>>>>> Customers who wish to use the latest release after February 1, 2015
>>>>>> will have the option to purchase the latest version at SRP (Suggested
>>>>>> Retail Price).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a customer I'd like to be on paid maintenance because there is
>>>>>> some sort of benefit that it provides. Not because there is a gun to my
>>>>>> head that I lose my investment in purchasing the software and risk paying
>>>>>> full price for upgrades in the future otherwise.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Graham Bell <
>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> This isn't anything new, this has already been announced last year
>>>>>> and discussed here and on other forums.
>>>>>> Also currently, upgrade pricing is 70% of the price of a new seat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> G
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>>>>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]> [mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kris Rivel
>>>>>> Sent: 26 February 2014 22:15
>>>>>> To: Softimage List
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>>>>>> Subject: Re: new upgrade policy
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>>>>>> I'm looking at Modo, Houdini and anything else with some drive,
>>>>>> passion and inspiration behind it.  I'll use Soft till it doesn't run
>>>>>> anymore and just gives me a blue screen or something.
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>>>>>> But this aggressive tactic just comes off as greedy and is poorly
>>>>>> planned.  I wonder how many other holes they can put in their boat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kris
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Daniel Sweeney <
>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things
>>>>>> have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its
>>>>>> needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo?
>>>>>> Thoughts??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Autodesk bollocks.
>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2014 8:52 PM, "Kris Rivel" <[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I read it and couldn't help but say WTH?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kris
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Seems they need to fill the vault...
>>>>>> [http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8965/erojamailpleca.jpg]
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>>>>>> 2014-02-26 14:29 GMT-06:00 Kris Rivel <[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]>>>:
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>>>>>> So...what's everyone's take on this gem?  So if I don't upgrade to
>>>>>> latest version  now...then when I want that version I have to pay full
>>>>>> price?
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>>>>>> http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Frequently-Asked-Questions-about-the-Autodesk-Upgrade-Policy.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kris
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