What i don't understand is why Autode$k want people hate them. I mean, look at "The Foundry", such a nice reputation. Why Autodesk don't want to be a good company? They only need to listen customers; that's all. It's easy.
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Sebastien Sterling < [email protected]> wrote: > if only to shit in their coffee :P > > > On 17 March 2014 01:02, Doeke Wartena <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think it will be very expensive but i would be happy to donate some. >> >> >> 2014-03-16 20:16 GMT+01:00 Tenshi Sama <[email protected]>: >> >> I'm not a lawyer, but i think with Autodesk history there's maybe a case >>> here. The only way i think this could be accomplished is with all the >>> community support; from studios to freelancers; important people; then, >>> gather all the info from past years, videos, open letters, discussions, >>> petitions, AD statements about Softimage future. I mean, everything!. And >>> maybe we could have a case here.(maybe a weak one, but still a case) >>> >>> The problem i see with this is that people is not going to support >>> something like this, because it requires investment and time. Human beings >>> think first about their priorities, families and life itself(which is fine). >>> But, if only we could give support to something like this, this kind of >>> "monopoly" cases, will be over for decades, because company's will know for >>> sure that Users will fight for their rights. >>> >>> Don't misunderstand me, i hate the way Autode$k manage things, i would >>> love to see the law force them to give the users what they promess year >>> after year. What I do not like to see is how people bow to Autodesk and let >>> them decide the path that everyone must follow. >>> >>> So... ,first we need a good representative, then a good lawyer, >>> community support, and money. >>> >>> (sorry for my english) >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Chris Vienneau < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Things are very different than six years ago. In terms of competition >>>> for Autodesk, you can now argue in different industries there is Cinema 4D, >>>> Modo, Houdini, Zbrush, 3D coat, and even Unity (now has modeling tools) >>>> that can replace functionality that was once only available in 3dsmax, >>>> Maya, and Softimage. Things are more and more about playing nice with other >>>> tools in an ecosystem than one package to rule them all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> cv/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: [email protected] [ >>>> [email protected]] on behalf of Ben Barker [ >>>> [email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:38 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit >>>> >>>> I'm not a lawyer either, but a few thoughts. When AD first bought >>>> Softimage there were talks of monopoly. Unfortunately for us, AD's biggest >>>> market is CAD, and they have several competitors in that arena. The >>>> government doesn't really parcel out the market in a way that favors a >>>> claim on monopoly for 3D artists. We are just a small bulb on a large tree. >>>> >>>> Secondly, and this is a more serious problem, antitrust basically >>>> doesn't exist anymore in the US like it did in the days of Ma Bell. I >>>> talked with my partner, who is a larval lawyer, about this issue quite a >>>> bit. Every antitrust decision for the past 70 years has gnawed away at >>>> plaintiff power in antitrust cases and now there is essentially nothing >>>> left. Combined with the weak case we would already have from the first >>>> part, and I think this would be a really difficult row to hoe. That money >>>> and energy would probably be better spent re-educating and resource sharing >>>> among SI artists so they can move on, or perhaps fighting the >>>> subsidy/tariff issue. >>>> >>>> I understand the anger, and it's heartbreaking to watch a superior >>>> product die in favor of Maya, but this wouldn't be a good way to retaliate >>>> IMO. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, skuby <[email protected]<mailto: >>>> [email protected]>> wrote: >>>> There may be a case here for an Antitrust Class Action Lawsuit against >>>> Autodesk. We would need to have a lawyer look at the details and I'm not >>>> the person to be able to do this, as I don't have the resources, >>>> connections or credibility to do so. >>>> >>>> However, if successful, it is potentially possible that Autodesk could >>>> be forced to divest their Softimage assets, aka. they could be compelled by >>>> a court to sell Softimage to a competitor at it's fair market value. >>>> >>>> Anyways, maybe someone out there in the aether can give the idea a >>>> shot, I would not know where to start outside of this initial suggestion. >>>> >>>> The Federal Trade Commission along with the Department of Justice >>>> Antitrust Division jointly regulate and enforce Antitrust Law and >>>> Anti-Competitive Monopoly practices. >>>> >>>> Anyways, this might work a little better than a petition to Autodesk or >>>> other-such cries for a change of heart, but the petition someone put out >>>> there to Autodesk might serve some use when presenting the idea to a >>>> Lawyer(s). I think a lot of people and interested parties might just >>>> support crowdfunding for legal fees. Good luck. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
