So true Paul. Morten
Den 18. marts 2014 kl. 21:27 skrev Bk <[email protected]>: > > > > I don't "find it hard to believe". > > > > > Autodesk have shown clear as crystal that they don't care, at least not > > > humanly care. They "care" in a managed collateral damage kind of way, but > > > it all comes back to what can you get away with that will have minimal > > > negative impact on your company. > > > If autodesk had any shred of decency, they would bend over backwards to > > > help the customers who's lives they have turned upside down, not enforce > > > time limits and restrict ability to get new seats etc. > > > You have done as a company one of the worse things you could have done for > > > Softimage users by EOL ing the software we have spent our careers > > > mastering, but that is no the half of it.The part that really stings is > > > the > > > adding of insult to injury through blatant manipulative strong arm > > > tactics. > > > It's a modern equivalent of Europe storming the Americas and we are the > > > natives. The Europeans justified it to themselves that they were bringing > > > civilisation to the savages. You no doubt think believe that you are > > > offering us something of value too and we just cant see it, but that shows > > > utter disregard for a viewpoint other than your(AD's) own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Maurice Patel < > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> < > > > mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: > > > Hi Paul, Adam > > > We do understand that people build their livelihoods on our software. This > > > is something we take seriously, although (with good reason) you might > > > find > > > it hard to believe right now. Every year we spend significant resources > > > maintaining legacy code so that the new features we add to our products > > > don't radically disrupt customers workflows. We really do try not to take > > > unnecessary risks with our software. And we have an incredibly long track > > > record of developing software for the long term - one can just look at > > > AutoCAD and 3ds Max. Even acquisitions like Flame and Maya have continued > > > to be extensively developed at Autodesk as have other product > > > acquisitions. > > > > > > We have stated and are committed both to developing our core products and > > > to innovating. Our decision to focus on 3ds max and Maya was so we could > > > continue to do both adequately (not one or the other). We are a high tech > > > company so it wouldn't be realistic to expect us not to try to innovate > > > even if the risks are high. That does not mean that is all we do. > > > > > > I am not denying that Softimage customers are now facing some challenging > > > decisions. But several have said on the forum, and I would personally > > > agree > > > with them, that in this industry - as in any high-tech industry - it can > > > be > > > risky to have all your eggs in one basket, even if that means looking > > > outside of Autodesk (and there are some very interesting solutions out > > > there). Giants fall (look at SGI). We are not immune to that either. > > > Personally, I do not think that will happen, but no one at Autodesk will > > > ever make any explicit guarantees about the future. All I can say is make > > > your software decisions based on what you see today - anything else would > > > be, to a certain extent, vaporware and speculation, especially the farther > > > out you look. > > > > > > maurice > > > > > > > > > Maurice Patel > > > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134<tel:514%20954-7134> > > > From: [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> < > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]< > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> >] On Behalf Of Paul > > > Griswold > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:15 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> < > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: Autodesk webinar > > > In Softimage we have a production-proven, solid tool. ICE works TODAY, > > > not > > > 2 years from today, not in a dream of a product called Bifrost, but right > > > NOW. > > > > > > Are you telling everyone here who has based their ENTIRE business around > > > Softimage, we should trust Autodesk to have a fully functioning tool ready > > > that will do EVERYTHING Softimage can do TODAY by the time Softimage hits > > > the end? We should believe that after you've just admitted that Skyline > > > was a failure? > > > > > > These aren't a bunch of ideas or concepts here, these are our businesses! > > > We feed our families, we pay our bills, we survive based on Softimage and > > > now we have to hope that somehow Bifrost is not in the 99% failure, but 1% > > > innovation? > > > > > > Do you seriously want us to bet our future on that? Would you go home and > > > tell your significant other that rather than focusing on a tool that works > > > for you, makes money for you right now, you're betting everything on a > > > promise from Autodesk?? > > > > > > Who on earth does business like that?? Is Autodesk going to pay our > > > mortgages or feed our families when Bifrost falls apart? Because unless > > > that's the plan, I can't think of a single sane person who would go along > > > with this Maya-only plan. > > > > > > This is absolutely a terrible way to do business and everyone at Autodesk > > > knows it. They've just dug in their heels to avoid looking like they've > > > made a colossal mistake. > > > > > > -Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Adam Sale < [email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> < mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> ><mailto:[email protected]< > > > mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> wrote: > > > > > > Maurice, in all of this talk the one glaring omission is this. You guys > > > are > > > always trying to innovate. You have said success is often 99 percent > > > failure to one percent success. Well, in the event bifrost falls by the > > > wayside like skyline did, all of a sudden autodesk will have zero node > > > based solutions to do the type of ice work we expect of a dcc product. How > > > is that a wise move as a company? Its like throwing out the baby with the > > > bath water and seems incredibly short sighted. So as we move to bifrost to > > > begin our transition away from ICE, we may be in this same mess a couple > > > years down the road if it doesnt pan out. Imagine the fallout then.. > > > people > > > will go absolutely nuclear on AD. > > > > > > Adam > > > > <winmail.dat>
