The list should remain a reliable place for professionals to help one
another out and discuss industry specific topics related to xsi, with
the occasional banter here and there to lighten things up.
That said I think the level of chatter is understandable given xsi's
eol. I mean this is a big change for lots of people. Once things cool
down, /it would be good for veterans of the list to take the lead and
come to an agreement on best practices with those newer or less active.
I know there was a discussion about possibly migrating to a more
manageable format? Either way, maybe there should be a system in place
as a reminder of best practices. /
In the mean time, I'll sit back and entertain myself with some of the
great comments by the long time softies and the impassioned comments by
all effected. :o)
And i highly recommend a collapsible thread format for viewing emails
like in thunderbird.
On 3/20/2014 10:24 PM, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
Wow wow, are you on crack or something?
I have not ONCE replied to BK/Paul Smith on this list. I've talked to
him several times and there is no measure to how much I respect the
guy. I sure as hell haven't called him stupid publicly or privately, EVER.
That is some seriously shitty and absolutely unfounded accusation
right there. WTF?
And yes, I replied to Alok's thread, who's an ex alumni of mine for
the record, and another person I have respect for and he knows it,
only to the extent of mentioning that I believe TDs in the near future
would have made better use of their time divesting and reskilling
themselves.
Given I sell training for TDs in XSI you'd think if I had any interest
outside helping my peers I would encourage people to do just that and
buy my shit instead of telling them to look elsewhere, don't you?
I have not ONCE treated you as imbeciles or said you should migrate
and that you don't know in the industry, where the hell you got that I
have no idea, you seem to simply decide to take everything personally
and aggressively, apparently from well before I even ever addressed
you or your comments.
Don't make it a me vs whatever the hell you think your "us" is.
As for the LEGO movie, seriously, how the hell is that MY success or
has changed one bit my behaviour? I just did RnD work on components,
maths, pipe and auxiliary tool, didn't even supe it.
You are being extremely insulting and assuming right there. If I
-ever- even mentioned it it's because everybody and their dog keeps
mentioning it like it was an all XSI production, and it's therefore
become a completely mis-placed flag for "the rebellion".
Dude, you seriously need to chill and stop making wild accusations.
As for who you insulted personally, pretty much every single AD
employee who ever posted, regardles of what they were saying or doing
or whether you even knew who the hell they were (some of them were on
our side... WERE).
I explained why I find posts like yours disruptive and poisoning, and
your reply is an ad hominem where you accuse me of calling Paul
stupid? Come on, if ever there was a "point in case" moment.
As for what I have done for the people here, I'm doing my best to
remain reasonable and give advice dispassionately. You see it as me
betraying the cause, I'm sure, but I see it as trying to help.
I also got Brad Peebler in touch with the list, contacted and started
initiatives in other regards I can't discuss publicly, and I refrained
from telling sources of information key to this list to crawl under a
rock.
I reckon I'm coming out on top insofar. What have you EVER done, if I
may ask?
Have a great day.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thx Dave that was the point. To bring a little humor in a non
personal or direct way. But for some high heels people it is an
insult.
@Raffaele
Again with all my respect. And now that you brought this to a
more personal level.
Tell me who I have insulted in this list according to you. Less
to say, I have seen really unprofessional post of the high gurus
around here. You are the one jumping everywhere you can, playing
your Zeuz of the list role.
At first, you treated us like imbeciles that have nothing to do
with "the industry" telling us to migrate. You even went on Alok
telling him, in your great elloquent writing that he was a stupid
for start developing tools for Softimage for free. Super
constructive coming from you...
Then Paul Smith came in telling that he is opening a new studio
based on Softimage and again with your high quality prose,
you told Paul, who really has created the most extensive free
Softimage tutorials on line library, that he was another stupid
for founding a new studio on a death software.
Then you seemed to be defending Autodesk and jumping in every post
you could saying that Softimage was old technology and that we
were blind, fanatics and stupids for continue to use a death
software and that we were doomed.
Now you are bashing again aginst Maya.
You tried to show off when I posted the figures of the industry
estimates, bringing other industries abroad that were no related
and that you have no knowledge other than Google. Like the
patents post, that you quicky covered yourself by replying
immediatly that you have no idea.
You even terrorized Luc Eric with your laberynthic response that
confused him, and finally he even apologized of thinking he was
replying at something else.
You come at anyone you feel you can step on, because of your
superknowledge of "the industry" and your beautiful prose.
I don't need to show my credentials, neither tell you since when I
added to this list. Or what contribuitions I have made or not, as
I rather prefer to keep a low profile when I help
people intstead of inflating my chest, and yell it to the corners
of the world.
Yes, I have been sarcastic about Autodesk and their innovations
and techology as many of us. But at least I have been straight
since this Autodesk mayhem happened, that maybe for you at the
comfort of your chair and behind your big desk, the rest are a
bunch of fanatics ready to burn Autodesk's headquarters.
But outside your big studio paraphernalia is a whole world of
artists that struggle and battle in other fields. A world that
from what I've been reading from your tons of latest posts, you
don't know nothing.
So if you don't like my posts, stop jumping in with your high heels.
Indeed Jordi and others are doing what they believe. The Houdini
guide he offered is an amazing one, and I already started reading.
What have you done? Nothing but tell the rest that we are a bunch
of fanatics with the XSI logo tatooed on our butts. Drop our tool,
and move on.
So don't fill your mouth with other people names.
As you have contributed as well as the rest of us to the actual
state of this list.
As you are migrating or already did from this old technolgy I
don't understand why you are still here bulling anyone that you
feel he is inferior or a junior.
I am staying because I will keep continue to use Softimage until I
find something better. Which I doubt.
Seems that the LEGO success overcame you and forgot that the name
of the movie is LEGO, not EGO.
Funny you don't remember me, as I remember you when you were a
simple nice guy.
I,ll be looking forward for you contribiutions like the one from
Mr. Bares.
Cheers and have a good day at mount Olimpus where everything is
wonderful.
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Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation.
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it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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