I totally understand what you are saying, Greg, and I see that a lot with AE. I see one person having a more stable experience, others having a less stable experience. Another with a great experience, another with intense hatred. And on and on. On the whole, in my experience and with the majority of the people I have asked, it seems more people are having issues with AE than ever before.
I certainly don't doubt that you have had better experiences with it lately, and I am happy for that! On the other hand, Andy and Angus are correct about the installer. The swears that I came up with while trying to install that thing were quite unique. Anyway, what it comes down to for me, regarding this possible "news" is that less competition is never a good thing for the consumer. I hope this is just a rumor or if it is accurate, it doesn't come to be. Less competition would be bad, for everyone of us. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Greg Punchatz <[email protected]> wrote: > Not my experience Perry, > > AE was unusable in my opinion until the last couple of versions or so... I > had a hate for that program that ran deep until recent releases, but > improvements recently has made it palatable for me. > > The momentum of Adobe since the move to the subscription based model, > seems to me, to have improved the way they are improving things for the > long term. Premiere has almost completely taken back all of the Final Cut > market by creating a stronger product line..and is eating into avid sales > BIG TIME. > > I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes from, but they have always > been the lesser evil to me. > > My 2cents > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Stefan Kubicek <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well put Perry, exactly my thoughts! >> >> Speaking of Fusion: I had the pleasure of using the free version last >> week for 7 consecutive days in a a row, 10 hrs a day. It was blazingly >> fast (compared to AE anyway), did not crash once, and the look of the node >> tree was pleasing enough to not make my eyes bleed (as opposed to Nuke's). >> Even the pro version is a bargain for $1000 for what you get. >> >> >> >> +1 on all >> >> Totally agree. >> >> This "news" sickened me and if true, could mean great things for Fusion >> and nothing but bad news for the rest. >> >> I've seen the usability and stability of After Effects (AE) decline >> sharply over the timeframe that AE has been a rental product. Updates cause >> problems instead of fixing them and development has slowed (even further). >> Not so with Nuke. >> >> Adobe wants VFX to be accessible to the consumer, and while I don't >> discount the research they have done, some of which has been quite amazing, >> most of their focus has been on one button type of VFX solutions and not on >> stability and flexibility, which is what we need and what The Foundry >> supplies software that excels in. >> >> Rotobrush, PuppetTool, CameraTracker all designed to make as close to a >> one button solution as possible. These tools works great in certain >> situations, but when the shot gets tough, you quickly run out of options. >> >> Nuke is nothing but options, and is far more ICE-like than AE is. >> >> Having something as flexible as Nuke owned by a company that has a huge >> competitive market-dominating product like AE, should send chills up your >> spine as to how closely it matches the Autodesk Maya/Soft debacle. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Please excuse typos and >> brief replies. >> Thank you! >> >> On Apr 28, 2015, at 2:05 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> AD owned and produced a lot of stuff over the years. The various >> acquisitions you are thinking of in the M&E group are a drop in the ocean >> that is their arch, viz, CAM/CAE budgets. >> Alias was bought for studio and the inlet in industrial CAM they missed >> at the time. Maya in and of itself is probably not scratching 3 or 4% of >> their revenue and I doubt Soft even made it to an integer number. >> >> Adobe is already a bigger company than AD for the record, and has MORE of >> a monopoly on its market segments than AD does. They beat AD in revenue and >> net by a factor of two most years. >> >> Again, I don't know what Adobe you guys are thinking of, but the one I >> know of is nothing to hope for. They make EA sports and AD M&E look >> positively benign in the VFX geography. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Nicolas Esposito <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> If I remember correcty Autodesk, before the big buyout in recent yearsm >>> had only Autocad and 3ds to carry on and make good money...when they start >>> acquiring Alias and all the others they establish themself as the "company >>> to go", simply because they were the owners. >>> >>> For me Adobe could possibly be the next Autodesk, but I really hope I'm >>> wrong. >>> >>> 2015-04-28 7:24 GMT+02:00 Raffaele Fragapane < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> There must be another company named Adobe I'm not aware of... >>>> >>>> Adobe has had nothing but contempt for VFX for years, and people would >>>> actually get on board with this? >>>> >>>> If there is any truth to these incompetently written piece of news >>>> whatsoever, and that's pretty much 50/50 at best, be ready to rent. Windows >>>> and half arsed Mac ports only, of course. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tenshi S. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Better Adobe than Autode$k. Is the less bad co. between both. >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------- >> Stefan Kubicek >> ------------------------------------------- >> keyvis digital imagery >> Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 >> A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien >> Phone: +43/699/12614231 >> www.keyvis.at [email protected] >> -- This email and its attachments are -- >> --confidential and for the recipient only-- >> > > -- Perry Harovas Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> -25 Years Experience -Member of the Visual Effects Society (VES)
