Totally agree. 

This "news" sickened me and if true, could mean great things for Fusion and 
nothing but bad news for the rest. 

I've seen the usability and stability of After Effects (AE) decline sharply 
over the timeframe that AE has been a rental product. Updates cause problems 
instead of fixing them and development has slowed (even further). Not so with 
Nuke. 

Adobe wants VFX to be accessible to the consumer, and while I don't discount 
the research they have done, some of which has been quite amazing, most of 
their focus has been on one button type of VFX solutions and not on stability 
and flexibility, which is what we need and what The Foundry supplies software 
that excels in. 

Rotobrush, PuppetTool, CameraTracker all designed to make as close to a one 
button solution as possible. These tools works great in certain situations, but 
when the shot gets tough, you quickly run out of options. 

Nuke is nothing but options, and is  far more ICE-like than AE is. 

Having something as flexible as Nuke owned by a company that has a huge 
competitive market-dominating product like AE, should send chills up your spine 
as to how closely it matches the Autodesk Maya/Soft debacle. 


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> On Apr 28, 2015, at 2:05 AM, Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> AD owned and produced a lot of stuff over the years. The various acquisitions 
> you are thinking of in the M&E group are a drop in the ocean that is their 
> arch, viz, CAM/CAE budgets.
> Alias was bought for studio and the inlet in industrial CAM they missed at 
> the time. Maya in and of itself is probably not scratching 3 or 4% of their 
> revenue and I doubt Soft even made it to an integer number.
> 
> Adobe is already a bigger company than AD for the record, and has MORE of a 
> monopoly on its market segments than AD does. They beat AD in revenue and net 
> by a factor of two most years.
> 
> Again, I don't know what Adobe you guys are thinking of, but the one I know 
> of is nothing to hope for. They make EA sports and AD M&E look positively 
> benign in the VFX geography.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Nicolas Esposito <[email protected]> wrote:
>> If I remember correcty Autodesk, before the big buyout in recent yearsm had 
>> only Autocad and 3ds to carry on and make good money...when they start 
>> acquiring Alias and all the others they establish themself as the "company 
>> to go", simply because they were the owners.
>> 
>> For me Adobe could possibly be the next Autodesk, but I really hope I'm 
>> wrong.
>> 
>> 2015-04-28 7:24 GMT+02:00 Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected]>:
>>> There must be another company named Adobe I'm not aware of...
>>> 
>>> Adobe has had nothing but contempt for VFX for years, and people would 
>>> actually get on board with this?
>>> 
>>> If there is any truth to these incompetently written piece of news 
>>> whatsoever, and that's pretty much 50/50 at best, be ready to rent. Windows 
>>> and half arsed Mac ports only, of course.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tenshi S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Better Adobe than Autode$k. Is the less bad co. between both.
> 
> 
> 
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> let them flee like the dogs they are!

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