Not my experience Perry, AE was unusable in my opinion until the last couple of versions or so... I had a hate for that program that ran deep until recent releases, but improvements recently has made it palatable for me.
The momentum of Adobe since the move to the subscription based model, seems to me, to have improved the way they are improving things for the long term. Premiere has almost completely taken back all of the Final Cut market by creating a stronger product line..and is eating into avid sales BIG TIME. I am not sure where all this Adobe hate comes from, but they have always been the lesser evil to me. My 2cents On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Stefan Kubicek <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > Well put Perry, exactly my thoughts! > > Speaking of Fusion: I had the pleasure of using the free version last week > for 7 consecutive days in a a row, 10 hrs a day. It was blazingly fast > (compared to AE anyway), did not crash once, and the look of the node tree > was pleasing enough to not make my eyes bleed (as opposed to Nuke's). Even > the pro version is a bargain for $1000 for what you get. > > > > +1 on all > > Totally agree. > > This "news" sickened me and if true, could mean great things for Fusion > and nothing but bad news for the rest. > > I've seen the usability and stability of After Effects (AE) decline > sharply over the timeframe that AE has been a rental product. Updates cause > problems instead of fixing them and development has slowed (even further). > Not so with Nuke. > > Adobe wants VFX to be accessible to the consumer, and while I don't > discount the research they have done, some of which has been quite amazing, > most of their focus has been on one button type of VFX solutions and not on > stability and flexibility, which is what we need and what The Foundry > supplies software that excels in. > > Rotobrush, PuppetTool, CameraTracker all designed to make as close to a > one button solution as possible. These tools works great in certain > situations, but when the shot gets tough, you quickly run out of options. > > Nuke is nothing but options, and is far more ICE-like than AE is. > > Having something as flexible as Nuke owned by a company that has a huge > competitive market-dominating product like AE, should send chills up your > spine as to how closely it matches the Autodesk Maya/Soft debacle. > > > Sent from my iPhone > Please excuse typos and > brief replies. > Thank you! > > On Apr 28, 2015, at 2:05 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > AD owned and produced a lot of stuff over the years. The various > acquisitions you are thinking of in the M&E group are a drop in the ocean > that is their arch, viz, CAM/CAE budgets. > Alias was bought for studio and the inlet in industrial CAM they missed at > the time. Maya in and of itself is probably not scratching 3 or 4% of their > revenue and I doubt Soft even made it to an integer number. > > Adobe is already a bigger company than AD for the record, and has MORE of > a monopoly on its market segments than AD does. They beat AD in revenue and > net by a factor of two most years. > > Again, I don't know what Adobe you guys are thinking of, but the one I > know of is nothing to hope for. They make EA sports and AD M&E look > positively benign in the VFX geography. > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Nicolas Esposito <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> If I remember correcty Autodesk, before the big buyout in recent yearsm >> had only Autocad and 3ds to carry on and make good money...when they start >> acquiring Alias and all the others they establish themself as the "company >> to go", simply because they were the owners. >> >> For me Adobe could possibly be the next Autodesk, but I really hope I'm >> wrong. >> >> 2015-04-28 7:24 GMT+02:00 Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: >> >>> There must be another company named Adobe I'm not aware of... >>> >>> Adobe has had nothing but contempt for VFX for years, and people would >>> actually get on board with this? >>> >>> If there is any truth to these incompetently written piece of news >>> whatsoever, and that's pretty much 50/50 at best, be ready to rent. Windows >>> and half arsed Mac ports only, of course. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tenshi S. <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Better Adobe than Autode$k. Is the less bad co. between both. >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are! > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------- > Stefan Kubicek > ------------------------------------------- > keyvis digital imagery > Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 > A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien > Phone: +43/699/12614231 > www.keyvis.at [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > -- This email and its attachments are -- > --confidential and for the recipient only-- >
